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Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:14 pm
by rockhole
To paraphrase a famous saying.....

"Smith bats on and on and on and on..........!!!"

I thought that Greg Chapell was the best batsman I had actually seen, and you could argue he has better technique, but Smithy is simply amazing and I hope to see a bit of him (or a lot) tomorrow.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:45 pm
by Crazyman
rockhole wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:14 pm To paraphrase a famous saying.....

"Smith bats on and on and on and on..........!!!"

I thought that Greg Chapell was the best batsman I had actually seen, and you could argue he has better technique, but Smithy is simply amazing and I hope to see a bit of him (or a lot) tomorrow.
Everyone who has been a top 6 bat for any country has better technique than Smith but FMD none are nearly as consistent, dominant or less like looking getting out including Lara, Tendulkar, Hayden, Iceman, Sir Viv.

I didn’t get to the likes of Sobers or Pollock so maybe someone else can speak for them...

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:19 am
by BenDoolan
Crazyman wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:45 pm
rockhole wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:14 pm To paraphrase a famous saying.....

"Smith bats on and on and on and on..........!!!"

I thought that Greg Chapell was the best batsman I had actually seen, and you could argue he has better technique, but Smithy is simply amazing and I hope to see a bit of him (or a lot) tomorrow.
Everyone who has been a top 6 bat for any country has better technique than Smith but FMD none are nearly as consistent, dominant or less like looking getting out including Lara, Tendulkar, Hayden, Iceman, Sir Viv.

I didn’t get to the likes of Sobers or Pollock so maybe someone else can speak for them...
Smith is a freak. The ugliest technique I’ve ever seen. But when you dominate like he does, who gives a shit what it looks like!

I’ve closely watched cricket sine the height of the World Series Cricket revolution. Unfortunately, South Africa was banned from the game during that period so I didn’t get to see the likes of Barry Richards and Graeme Pollock at their peak (although Richards did take part in WSC and had some glorious knocks).

I did see Pollock bat in some charity match where he belted a hundred at the age of 50+. If his glorious cover drives that day were any indication of his stroke play in his prime, then he would have been an absolute batting maestro.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:48 am
by grassy1
Some pretty careless efforts with the Bat today,including Smith.Comparisons with the World's best,past and present are way too early in my book

8/326 at Lunch.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:06 am
by BenDoolan
4th Test (Boxing Day),

AUS 327 (D. Warner 103, S. Smith 76, S. Marsh 61, S. Broad 4-51, J. Anderson 3-61, C. Woakes 2-72) v ENG 2/192 (A. Cook 104*, J. Root 49*)

What a shitfull day from the Australians

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:55 pm
by boncer34
Must admit I like the way Cook celebrated his milestones with a dignified bat raise with the helmet off. Compare that to the chest thumping, running leaps and over the top theatrical bullshit from our lads it was a stark contrast.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:58 pm
by hop
Spent the entire day at the 'G' today repeating the same refrain..........bowl at the stumps.....bowl at the stumps....bowl at the stumps.....

Jackson Bird is as good a replacement for Mitchell Starc as the 6'5" unemployed Chiropractor was for Boris Karloff in 'Plan 9 From Outer Space'.

To let Broad and Cook get a 100 run partnership was almost criminal.

This Test is GONE!!!!!!

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:07 pm
by grassy1
boncer34 wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:55 pm Must admit I like the way Cook celebrated his milestones with a dignified bat raise with the helmet off. Compare that to the chest thumping, running leaps and over the top theatrical bullshit from our lads it was a stark contrast.
Pretty much spot on there Bonce.After hearing about Warner's carry on,I wish he did get knocked off for 99.Mouthy Prick!

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:14 pm
by grassy1
hop wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:58 pm Spent the entire day at the 'G' today repeating the same refrain..........bowl at the stumps.....bowl at the stumps....bowl at the stumps.....

Jackson Bird is as good a replacement for Mitchell Starc as the 6'5" unemployed Chiropractor was for Boris Karloff in 'Plan 9 From Outer Space'.

To let Broad and Cook get a 100 run partnership was almost criminal.

This Test is GONE!!!!!!
Watching them gift Broad his Half Century beggard belief.Anyone bother ripping one into the block hole,let alone think about it?!

Jeez,we could have done with Big Bird Joel Garner for a couple of overs to Shatter the Stumps!No way he would have f***** about with any pesky tail endears,except maybe Terry Alderman once or twice.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:46 am
by tonysoprano
I'm not an authority by any stretch, but after playing and watching cricket for many years, the only difference between test bowlers and club bowlers is speed.

Very few (pace) bowlers since McGrath deliver more than a couple of good balls in a row. I think there's a major lack of patience.

One other thing, Englands use or not of DRS is laughable. Not in Shane Watson's league but trying hard to get there.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:23 am
by grassy1
Rain,rain,come again!

We don't deserve such an easy eascape and I would to see a much better effort with bat on the last day.

Don't know what Lehman's on about,letting our bowlers off the hook,defending them to the hilt.They generały bowled SHIT,Boof!

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:41 am
by BenDoolan
4th Test (Boxing Day),

AUS 327 (D. Warner 103, S. Smith 76, S. Marsh 61, S. Broad 4-51, J. Anderson 3-61, C. Woakes 2-72) & 4/263 (S. Smith 102*, D. Warner 86) drew with ENG 491(A. Cook 244*, J. Root 61, S. Broad 56, P. Cummins 4-117, J. Hazlewood 3-95, N. Lyon 3-109)

Ashton Agar in for the Sydney Test. What about Jon Holland FFS.

Bird to get the flick IMO. Bancroft and Khawaja in the gun too.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:38 pm
by hop
BenDoolan wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:41 am 4th Test (Boxing Day),

AUS 327 (D. Warner 103, S. Smith 76, S. Marsh 61, S. Broad 4-51, J. Anderson 3-61, C. Woakes 2-72) & 4/263 (S. Smith 102*, D. Warner 86) drew with ENG 491(A. Cook 244*, J. Root 61, S. Broad 56, P. Cummins 4-117, J. Hazlewood 3-95, N. Lyon 3-109)

Ashton Agar in for the Sydney Test. What about Jon Holland FFS.

Bird to get the flick IMO. Bancroft and Khawaja in the gun too.
No Way Holland gets a look in.

He only plays for the team that's won the last three Sheffield Shields.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:12 pm
by tonysoprano
Once again, legit questions about how selectors make final call. Surely they didn't pick agar ahead of holland because he's younger and better bat? The priority is who is the better spinner, surely?

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:29 pm
by BenDoolan
hop wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:38 pm
BenDoolan wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:41 am 4th Test (Boxing Day),

AUS 327 (D. Warner 103, S. Smith 76, S. Marsh 61, S. Broad 4-51, J. Anderson 3-61, C. Woakes 2-72) & 4/263 (S. Smith 102*, D. Warner 86) drew with ENG 491(A. Cook 244*, J. Root 61, S. Broad 56, P. Cummins 4-117, J. Hazlewood 3-95, N. Lyon 3-109)

Ashton Agar in for the Sydney Test. What about Jon Holland FFS.

Bird to get the flick IMO. Bancroft and Khawaja in the gun too.
No Way Holland gets a look in.

He only plays for the team that's won the last three Sheffield Shields.
Indeed.

And he’s probably had a significant contribution in all 3 Finals.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:36 pm
by BenDoolan
tonysoprano wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:12 pm Once again, legit questions about how selectors make final call. Surely they didn't pick agar ahead of holland because he's younger and better bat? The priority is who is the better spinner, surely?
If I’m not mistaken, Agar has averaged 40 with the ball in the past 2 Shield seasons compared to 20 from Holland. These c**** are taking the piss when they say they reward form.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:45 am
by grassy1
On a differed note,who should Really cop the blame for the so called poor MCG pitch?

The Curator or Cricket Australia?

Lehman and Smith did a bit too much Whinging about it if you ask me,when it was poor cricket from us,that put us on the back foot in The Boxing Day Test.

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:58 am
by BenDoolan
grassy1 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:45 am On a differed note,who should Really cop the blame for the so called poor MCG pitch?

The Curator or Cricket Australia?

Lehman and Smith did a bit too much Whinging about it if you ask me,when it was poor cricket from us,that put us on the back foot in The Boxing Day Test.
I hate wickets that give zero assistance to bowlers. May as well play on a runway. Geoff Boycott described it perfectly - “it’s a pancake”

Blame the curators. Shitfull.

But if the ICC are fairdinkum in branding the wicket as “poor”, then I’d like to know how they rate a lot of sub-continent wickets that produce bullshit Test scores of 3/750 declared or somesuch...

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:19 am
by grassy1
Do you think the MCG Curator was operating under any instruction from Cricket Australia,Ben?

Re: Ashes Cricket 2017/18

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:48 am
by tonysoprano
It may have been because it was v Zimbabwe, or perhaps because it was a day night test (or both factors) - but I believe there was an inaugural 4 day test match Saffers v Zimb? Sadly I think it finished well inside that time.

But I'm with many of you, the pitch has to give bowlers a chance. Placid feather beds kill the game. I'd prefer grassy seamer on days 1 and 2, drying and turning on days 4 and 5.

Of course, I'm not an agricultural scientist, horticulturalist or curator, so I'm probably asking the impossible.