The Suns failure. The Mumford theory.

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The Suns failure. The Mumford theory.

Post by little_ripper » Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:31 am

Gws and Gold Coast are a contrasting tale of two non traditional afl 'markets'.

Both clubs loaded up with draft picks should be now finals bound.
Gws have been overly successful even if they lose on the weekend. The suns have been spectacularly a failure.

I put it down to one influential player and where he was recruited from.

Shane Mumford.
This bloke dominates a game, an absolute monster in the ruck. The sort of player every single club would want. Origin? The swans. This guy was pissed to be squeezed out by Sydney's bid on Franklin. IMO with the Giants riches up forward it was an absolute blessing in disguise. And as an established Sydneysider it hasn't been hard for the Giants to keep him

No doubt Mumfords Geelong connections helped in the sell for Stevie J.

Contrast this to the Gold Coast, a club no established players are actively looking to join. Certainly none in their prime like Mumford. Can they throw any money at their up the highway rivals in Brisbane? Doubt it. Brisbane's cupboard is so bare, they would be overpaying half their list to keep them there.

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Post by BenDoolan » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:36 am

So Gary Ablett Jr, the best midfielder in the modern game, couldn't provide the same oomph to the Suns that Mumford has to GWS. I think there's more to it than one player from either club. Better draft choices at inauguration, better coaching appointments, less recruitment of junk, and a better culture being formed at GWS has been the main reasons.
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Re: The Suns failure. The Mumford theory.

Post by Crazyman » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:02 pm

BenDoolan wrote:So Gary Ablett Jr, the best midfielder in the modern game, couldn't provide the same oomph to the Suns that Mumford has to GWS. I think there's more to it than one player from either club. Better draft choices at inauguration, better coaching appointments, less recruitment of junk, and a better culture being formed at GWS has been the main reasons.
This + GWS learned from how Gold Coast went about things and did it 1000% better...

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Re: The Suns failure. The Mumford theory.

Post by little_ripper » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:52 pm

BenDoolan wrote:So Gary Ablett Jr, the best midfielder in the modern game, couldn't provide the same oomph to the Suns that Mumford has to GWS. I think there's more to it than one player from either club. Better draft choices at inauguration, better coaching appointments, less recruitment of junk, and a better culture being formed at GWS has been the main reasons.
Gws put games into players before Mumford was on the scene. Ablett was there from the get go. I also think as good as little Gazza is, he's not the type of clubman Mumford is.

Maybe I ak full of it. But I reckon
Ablett doesn't lead a good culture at the suns.

Mumford or the mummy was/is a bit if a cult afl figure in footy circles in Sydney.

He's put a little bit of the swans into the giants.

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Re: The Suns failure. The Mumford theory.

Post by Rover99 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:34 pm

[quote="little_ripper"]

Maybe I am full of it. But I reckon
Ablett doesn't lead a good culture at the suns.

Yeah,true.... at Ice Central..... :-"

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Re: The Suns failure. The Mumford theory.

Post by F111 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:35 pm

Mumford went to be part of a team.
Ablett went to front an organisation.

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Post by j-mac31 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:45 pm

BenDoolan wrote:So Gary Ablett Jr, the best midfielder in the modern game, couldn't provide the same oomph to the Suns that Mumford has to GWS. I think there's more to it than one player from either club. Better draft choices at inauguration, better coaching appointments, less recruitment of junk, and a better culture being formed at GWS has been the main reasons.
Cornes and Brogan who were finished, as well as McDonald who was probably still good to go for a couple more years were excellent pick ups by the Giants. Also Melbourne were f****** stupid to get rid of McDonald, but what's new.
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Post by Crazyman » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:24 am

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Re: The Suns failure. The Mumford theory.

Post by mdso » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:45 pm

F111 wrote:Mumford went to be part of a team.
Ablett went to front an organisation.
In that respect he's a bit like his father.
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