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TWO f****** weeks for THAT bump??, was worth 4 if not 6weeks. Deliberate and brutal. I know Smith wasn`t seriously hurt, but that was just luck. The intention was to SERIOUSLY hurt him.
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Both feet left the ground and he made contact to the head so should be 4-5 weeks. The AFL come out and say they are taking head trauma seriously one day and then don't punish a dangerous action the next.

The class action against the AFL and clubs will just gain momentum from this.
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I like Kozzie,but he should have copped 4 weeks minimum.

McAdam from the Crows,6.

And Buddy,2.

As for the Class Action,watch out for Several blank pages Judge!
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Yeah, I don't get it either.
And McAdam cops 3 even though his was the most legal bump out of his, Pickett & Franklin.
Just absurd.
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Looked at Buddy’s again.

Sorry Champ,4 weeks!
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McAdam and Adelaide to challenge. Club says they would have accepted two weeks.
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The tribunal use a formula.

Look at page 6 of https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/docume ... elines.pdf

Pickett was judged as careless conduct, high impact and high (head) contact. This attracts a 2 match suspension.

Nowhere where Bluey is being shown could Pickett's actions be considered as anything other that intentional. It is absurd to argue that someone leaving the ground to bump was simply being careless.

This should have attracted a 3 match suspension... which is still too light in my book.

Buddy's ban was considered careless conduct, medium impact and high contact.

McAdam was assessed as careless conduct, severe impact and high contact. The severe impact was applied because Wehr had to leave the ground and did not return. As it was assessed as severe,it automatically goes the the tribunal even though the penalties are set, possibly because the tribunal could change careless to intentional and vice/versa (thought it seems dumb in my view).

The difference between severe and high impact is a bit subjective, simply because a player doesn't return. Some players are exceptionally fragile while others are as hard as a cat's head (for example Bailey Smith)... but the damage could surface decades later (eg Max Rooke who supposedly blanks out even when eating breakfast cereal).

It wasn't so long ago that Shiel was suspended for what could have happened, rather than what did happen.

While the AFL is to be commended for handing out suspensions for head high bumps in the first round (for once), expect the penalties to be reviewed and toughened now that the issue is being treated seriously.
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robrulz5 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:47 am McAdam and Adelaide to challenge. Club says they would have accepted two weeks.
Challenge Thrown Out!

Still 3 weeks.
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grassy1 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:40 pm
robrulz5 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:47 am McAdam and Adelaide to challenge. Club says they would have accepted two weeks.
Challenge Thrown Out!

Still 3 weeks.
Correct outcome.
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This comp has lost its fkng marbles.

How in the blue fk can they suspend Van Rooyen for 2 weeks for accidentally knocking someone on the head during a spoiling attempt (and they didn’t suffer any injury), while Rioli only gets 2 weeks for concussing someone with an off the ball incident (and Ridley misses half a game and next week).

Not to mention other examples like Murphy of Collingwood who had his nose broken in a marking contest - and didn’t even get a free kick ffs. And the Adelaide player never got cited.

WTF are they actually doing?

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Writing a Wrestling script,pleasing and “Entertaining”their token audience overseas,whilst Pissing off the masses,whilst dividing and conquering us,in getting to talk about their “Entertainment”Product!

These Dickheads are Ruining Aussie Rules,but they really don’t give a Flying f*** about that!
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grassy1 wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 8:06 pm Writing a Wrestling script,pleasing and “Entertaining”their token audience overseas,whilst Pissing off the masses,whilst dividing and conquering us,in getting to talk about their “Entertainment”Product!

These Dickheads are Ruining Aussie Rules,but they really don’t give a Flying f*** about that!
The insanity of what is actually going on at the moment is on a scale I have never seen before. They are deadset f****** imbeciles.
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BenDoolan wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:53 pm This comp has lost its fkng marbles.

How in the blue fk can they suspend Van Rooyen for 2 weeks for accidentally knocking someone on the head during a spoiling attempt (and they didn’t suffer any injury), while Rioli only gets 2 weeks for concussing someone with an off the ball incident (and Ridley misses half a game and next week).

Not to mention other examples like Murphy of Collingwood who had his nose broken in a marking contest - and didn’t even get a free kick ffs. And the Adelaide player never got cited.

WTF are they actually doing?

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They've twisted themselves into a pretzel with all this.
I mostly sided with Van Rooyen getting off, but another Suns player made an interesting comment today (or yesterday?) - basically he said - JVR wasn't looking at the ball and gave Ballard a coathanger. Kind of hard not to agree with that somewhat.
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The only word that comes to mind is crumpet. The system of s full of holes.
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nudder12 wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 9:53 pm
BenDoolan wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:53 pm This comp has lost its fkng marbles.

How in the blue fk can they suspend Van Rooyen for 2 weeks for accidentally knocking someone on the head during a spoiling attempt (and they didn’t suffer any injury), while Rioli only gets 2 weeks for concussing someone with an off the ball incident (and Ridley misses half a game and next week).

Not to mention other examples like Murphy of Collingwood who had his nose broken in a marking contest - and didn’t even get a free kick ffs. And the Adelaide player never got cited.

WTF are they actually doing?

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They've twisted themselves into a pretzel with all this.
I mostly sided with Van Rooyen getting off, but another Suns player made an interesting comment today (or yesterday?) - basically he said - JVR wasn't looking at the ball and gave Ballard a coathanger. Kind of hard not to agree with that somewhat.
Nothing anyone says can justify the penalty Van Rooyen copped.

Can the Suns player explain how Darcy Fogarty was not cited for breaking Nathan Murphy’s nose last week when he made front on contact in a marking contest?

It’s an absolute disgrace.

Michael Christian must be sacked. Imbecile.
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BenDoolan wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 10:51 pm
nudder12 wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 9:53 pm
BenDoolan wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:53 pm This comp has lost its fkng marbles.

How in the blue fk can they suspend Van Rooyen for 2 weeks for accidentally knocking someone on the head during a spoiling attempt (and they didn’t suffer any injury), while Rioli only gets 2 weeks for concussing someone with an off the ball incident (and Ridley misses half a game and next week).

Not to mention other examples like Murphy of Collingwood who had his nose broken in a marking contest - and didn’t even get a free kick ffs. And the Adelaide player never got cited.

WTF are they actually doing?

:evil:
They've twisted themselves into a pretzel with all this.
I mostly sided with Van Rooyen getting off, but another Suns player made an interesting comment today (or yesterday?) - basically he said - JVR wasn't looking at the ball and gave Ballard a coathanger. Kind of hard not to agree with that somewhat.
Nothing anyone says can justify the penalty Van Rooyen copped.

Can the Suns player explain how Darcy Fogarty was not cited for breaking Nathan Murphy’s nose last week when he made front on contact in a marking contest?

It’s an absolute disgrace.

Michael Christian must be sacked. Imbecile.
Totally agree Christian must go.
As for the Fogarty/Murphy comparison, I think there are some differences, but the bigger issue is consistency of the decisions.
Anyway, the Dees have appealed, so hopefully we'll understand things better once the appeal is decided.
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BenDoolan wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:53 pm This comp has lost its fkng marbles.

How in the blue fk can they suspend Van Rooyen for 2 weeks for accidentally knocking someone on the head during a spoiling attempt (and they didn’t suffer any injury), while Rioli only gets 2 weeks for concussing someone with an off the ball incident (and Ridley misses half a game and next week).

Not to mention other examples like Murphy of Collingwood who had his nose broken in a marking contest - and didn’t even get a free kick ffs. And the Adelaide player never got cited.

WTF are they actually doing?

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Didn't Ballard go off on a stretcher?

I don't believe there was a suspension in it but the player was injured. Not that I feel sorry for Ballard after he got off with a strike earlier in the year on Guelfi.
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BenDoolan wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:53 pm This comp has lost its fkng marbles.

How in the blue fk can they suspend Van Rooyen for 2 weeks for accidentally knocking someone on the head during a spoiling attempt (and they didn’t suffer any injury), while Rioli only gets 2 weeks for concussing someone with an off the ball incident (and Ridley misses half a game and next week).

Not to mention other examples like Murphy of Collingwood who had his nose broken in a marking contest - and didn’t even get a free kick ffs. And the Adelaide player never got cited.

WTF are they actually doing?

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Didn't Ballard go off on a stretcher?

I don't believe there was a suspension in it but the player was injured. Not that I feel sorry for Ballard after he got off with a strike earlier in the year on Guelfi.
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robrulz5 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:15 am
BenDoolan wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:53 pm This comp has lost its fkng marbles.

How in the blue fk can they suspend Van Rooyen for 2 weeks for accidentally knocking someone on the head during a spoiling attempt (and they didn’t suffer any injury), while Rioli only gets 2 weeks for concussing someone with an off the ball incident (and Ridley misses half a game and next week).

Not to mention other examples like Murphy of Collingwood who had his nose broken in a marking contest - and didn’t even get a free kick ffs. And the Adelaide player never got cited.

WTF are they actually doing?

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Didn't Ballard go off on a stretcher?

I don't believe there was a suspension in it but the player was injured. Not that I feel sorry for Ballard after he got off with a strike earlier in the year on Guelfi.
The point being made though… Murphy copped a broken nose and went off with the blood rule. There wasn’t even a free kick awarded ffs.

Why wasn’t that incident cited by the MRO? The same applies to
Darcy Fogarty if it applies to Van Rooyen.
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BenDoolan wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 9:32 am
robrulz5 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:15 am
BenDoolan wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:53 pm This comp has lost its fkng marbles.

How in the blue fk can they suspend Van Rooyen for 2 weeks for accidentally knocking someone on the head during a spoiling attempt (and they didn’t suffer any injury), while Rioli only gets 2 weeks for concussing someone with an off the ball incident (and Ridley misses half a game and next week).

Not to mention other examples like Murphy of Collingwood who had his nose broken in a marking contest - and didn’t even get a free kick ffs. And the Adelaide player never got cited.

WTF are they actually doing?

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Didn't Ballard go off on a stretcher?

I don't believe there was a suspension in it but the player was injured. Not that I feel sorry for Ballard after he got off with a strike earlier in the year on Guelfi.
The point being made though… Murphy copped a broken nose and went off with the blood rule. There wasn’t even a free kick awarded ffs.

Why wasn’t that incident cited by the MRO? The same applies to
Darcy Fogarty if it applies to Van Rooyen.
100% agree. The grading system was meant to make the all of this easier.
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