Scott Lucas

Essendon4eva · Post by **Essendon4eva** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:51 pm

What is everyone's opinion on trading Scott Lucas? There is no doubting he has been and ia very good center half forward. However I've alwasy thought his weaknesses are his presence and that when a smaller, more athletic player is one him, he gets beat.
With Lloyd in the side and a few more tall KPP coming through do you think it would be a good idea to trade Lucas? Not for anything that get's offered but for the right offer.

We could easily get some talented medfielder's from the Bulldogs, or even a hard bodied ball winner from West Coast.

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:58 pm

Should retire and die a Bomber.

dom_105 · Post by **dom_105** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:07 pm

This was thrown up around here today

Can't see it happening.

tom9779 · Post by **tom9779** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:21 pm

Essendon4eva wrote:What is everyone's opinion on trading Scott Lucas? There is no doubting he has been and ia very good center half forward. However I've alwasy thought his weaknesses are his presence and that when a smaller, more athletic player is one him, he gets beat.
With Lloyd in the side and a few more tall KPP coming through do you think it would be a good idea to trade Lucas? Not for anything that get's offered but for the right offer.

We could easily get some talented medfielder's from the Bulldogs, or even a hard bodied ball winner from West Coast.

very poor idea.

trade our best and fairest winner from last year? who when in form beats nearly anyone on their day?

NO. drafting and delisting is all that essendon needs to do considering we are positioned in the bottom half of the league.

Obviously you listen to trade proposals, but not in your right mind would you offer up Scott.

robrulz5 · Post by **robrulz5** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:25 pm

Lucas is a gun forward. There is no way we should even think about trading him.

swoodley · Post by **swoodley** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:38 pm

BenDoolan wrote:Should retire and die a Bomber.

But not right now...best if he waits a few years for the first and many many years for the second

Essendon4eva · Post by **Essendon4eva** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:41 pm

Lucas is about to hit his twilight. He is about 30 years old and doesn't have alot of time left. Consider also, that we are trying to devlop a team for the next year years, and he will be retired by then. I would rather get some quality for him then let him retire and get nothing for him.

swoodley · Post by **swoodley** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:51 pm

Essendon4eva wrote:Lucas is about to hit his twilight. He is about 30 years old and doesn't have alot of time left. Consider also, that we are trying to devlop a team for the next year years, and he will be retired by then. I would rather get some quality for him then let him retire and get nothing for him.

Scotty Lucas has had a number of clubs offer him big dollars over the years and has always stood by the club. In these days of rampant commercialism of the game, it is good to see that sort of loyalty and it should not be rewarded by having him traded for another club's offcasts.

If we were stupid enough to get rid of him, who is going to kick the 50+ goals that he has contributed over the last few years.

Also, he is one of only a very small number of players to win our B & F twice and what would trading him say about our club and it's capacity to honour those who truly deserve it.

If we can get a midfielder by trading, then do it with a less productive and less loyal player, otherwise keep trying to get it right via the draft.

Essendon4eva · Post by **Essendon4eva** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:22 pm

If someone offers a player without those qualities, then don't do the trade. I'm not talking about getting a few average players for him. I'm talking about quality players. ALso we are a devloping team? With a guy named Gumbelton, who in 4-5 years will be kicking that many goals. However with a Lucas trade we may have a mefeilder with good enough skills, to see Lloyd kicking 80-90 goals a year.

I repeat, Lucas is a class player and we should onyl make the trade for another class player. Itis the reason I suggest West Coast and the Dogs, because they have alot of polished medfeilder, who we need more than a KPP.

swoodley · Post by **swoodley** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:26 pm

So which Wet Toast or Bulldog midfielder(s) would you take to give Scotty away?

And then why would wet toast want him?

And would either club give up someone good enough?

Essendon4eva · Post by **Essendon4eva** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:37 pm

Why would West Coast want him? They will then havea superstar center half forward and not have to rely on that hack in Lynch. Maybe we get a guy like Pridis or Rosa. Two ball winners, who are playing behind Cousins, Judd, Kerr, plus they are young and could flourish wiht the extra responsibility. From the Doggies we could get Daniel Cross, Lindsey Gilbee, just off the top of my head.

I know alot of AFL fans are except to get alot of nothing, but you have to give away something. And it was said by the board when the sacked SHeed's, that Lucas was part of a group that won't be around in 4-5 years.

jimmyc1985 · Post by **jimmyc1985** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:45 pm

Brilliant. Hang on to Sheedy, don't consider trading McPhee, but get rid of Scott Lucas.

Your intelligence is recondite in its splendour, to say the least.

swoodley · Post by **swoodley** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:14 pm

jimmyc1985 wrote:Brilliant. Hang on to Sheedy, don't consider trading McPhee, but get rid of Scott Lucas.

Your intelligence is recondite in its splendour, to say the least.

Had me looking up dictionary.com for that one Jimmy...you're such an erudite fellow

swoodley · Post by **swoodley** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:16 pm

Essendon4eva wrote:Why would West Coast want him? They will then havea superstar center half forward and not have to rely on that hack in Lynch. Maybe we get a guy like Pridis or Rosa. Two ball winners, who are playing behind Cousins, Judd, Kerr, plus they are young and could flourish wiht the extra responsibility. From the Doggies we could get Daniel Cross, Lindsey Gilbee, just off the top of my head.

I know alot of AFL fans are except to get alot of nothing, but you have to give away something. And it was said by the board when the sacked SHeed's, that Lucas was part of a group that won't be around in 4-5 years.

And so your loyalty to Sheedy does not follow on to one of our best players of the last 20 years.

I think I'll just stick with Scotty thanks.

Rossoneri · Post by **Rossoneri** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:13 pm

Trade Lucas and keep Sheedy?

Turn it up.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:18 pm

swoodley wrote:
BenDoolan wrote:Should retire and die a Bomber.
But not right now...best if he waits a few years for the first and many many years for the second

Oops!

Yes, let's hope he stays a few more years, retires as a Bomber Great, and lives a long happy life!!

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:20 pm

Umm, that was me! ^

Post by **boncer34** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:46 pm

Rossoneri wrote:Trade Lucas and keep Sheedy?

Turn it up.

And McPhee has to stay to. Ignore his crap form and blame it all on injuries. Sure some of it has to do with injuries but that excuse is the reason we're starting to get where we are.

No body wants to believe we're simply no good anymore. To busy making excuses.

Essendon4eva · Post by **Essendon4eva** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:54 am

swoodley wrote:
Essendon4eva wrote:Why would West Coast want him? They will then havea superstar center half forward and not have to rely on that hack in Lynch. Maybe we get a guy like Pridis or Rosa. Two ball winners, who are playing behind Cousins, Judd, Kerr, plus they are young and could flourish wiht the extra responsibility. From the Doggies we could get Daniel Cross, Lindsey Gilbee, just off the top of my head.

I know alot of AFL fans are except to get alot of nothing, but you have to give away something. And it was said by the board when the sacked SHeed's, that Lucas was part of a group that won't be around in 4-5 years.
And so your loyalty to Sheedy does not follow on to one of our best players of the last 20 years.

I think I'll just stick with Scotty thanks.

Let's look at thsoe moronic comparisons you jsut made.

Sheeds - Cannot trade a coach. It si not like when he calls it quits you then get nothing for him.
McPhee - Reason I said he shouldn't be traded is because in 2004 he was a B&F and then got OP. SO I thought wanting to trade a yojng guys based on form was not good enough. So I though he should be giving a go next season under a new coach.

My reason for Lucas - We can get alot in return which will help us the next 10 years. If he stays the development of Gumbelton slows down and once he is gone in 3 years we get nothing in return.

Mrs Mercuri · Post by **Mrs Mercuri** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:27 am

You can tell the silly season is around the corner when people post topics like this one.

Lucas is a star, simple as that and has been one of our few match winers this season.

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