That's a loss we had coming.

robbie67 · Post by **robbie67** » Sat May 21, 2011 10:32 pm

We should know that when we have to expect a lot from Reimers, Slattery, NLM, and Stanton they almost never deliver, in fact under pressure they never do. We have to look at blokes that can come into the side, and replace them, because I dont think we can win a flag if any of those four have much more of a role than the substitute.

Reimers is a down hill skier of the highest order. Slattery has no poise.....zero, nada, none. NLM is the most over rated player ever at Essendon. Stanton has let things over the fence get to him to the extent that he cant contribute at all.......which really does prove he doesnt have the mental toughness to cope with playing for a contender week in, and week out.

Yes, we need the break, yes the maggots did us no favours, but most of all we were let down by the same blokes who have let us down for years.

s'dreams · Post by **s'dreams** » Sat May 21, 2011 10:40 pm

You forgot Ryder and Davey ...

robbie67 · Post by **robbie67** » Sat May 21, 2011 10:45 pm

Davey is excused, the 50 meter penalty when he came on was bullshit, and he did some ok things. It's difficult for the sub to find the tempo, particularly if you havent been playing in the seniors. I thought he did some nice things in the final quarter. I take your point about Ryder though, he needs to lift in a hurry.

Post by **boncer34** » Sat May 21, 2011 10:56 pm

robbie67 wrote:Davey is excused, the 50 meter penalty when he came on was bullshit, and he did some ok things. It's difficult for the sub to find the tempo, particularly if you havent been playing in the seniors. I thought he did some nice things in the final quarter. I take your point about Ryder though, he needs to lift in a hurry.

How?

Mrs Mercuri · Post by **Mrs Mercuri** » Sat May 21, 2011 10:58 pm

I thought Natrat played very well tonight...

Still I agree that tonights loss was coming, we looked quite fatigued coming off our interstate trip last week and missing a few key players from the side.

s'dreams · Post by **s'dreams** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:01 pm

Sad to say ... I gave up on Ryder about 1-2 weeks ago... GWS is welcome to him (and I hope we get something semi-decent in return).

bombercol · Post by **bombercol** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:03 pm

Lovett Murray I thought was pretty good too.

Windy_Hill · Post by **Windy_Hill** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:05 pm

Slattery and NLM did their jobs

robbie67 · Post by **robbie67** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:10 pm

Windy_Hill wrote:Slattery and NLM did their jobs

Could I have one of them jobs please? Slattery was completely useless, and NLM always is.

robbie67 · Post by **robbie67** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:12 pm

boncer34 wrote:
robbie67 wrote:Davey is excused, the 50 meter penalty when he came on was bullshit, and he did some ok things. It's difficult for the sub to find the tempo, particularly if you havent been playing in the seniors. I thought he did some nice things in the final quarter. I take your point about Ryder though, he needs to lift in a hurry.
How?

The Davey 50? The Richmond player clearly moves off his line, and Davey stops him. It was an awful 50.

Windy_Hill · Post by **Windy_Hill** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:15 pm

robbie67 wrote:
boncer34 wrote:
robbie67 wrote:Davey is excused, the 50 meter penalty when he came on was bullshit, and he did some ok things. It's difficult for the sub to find the tempo, particularly if you havent been playing in the seniors. I thought he did some nice things in the final quarter. I take your point about Ryder though, he needs to lift in a hurry.
How?
The Davey 50? The Richmond player clearly moves off his line, and Davey stops him. It was an awful 50.

See OP "Ass Raped" for more thoughts on the moronic umpiring

nudder12 · Post by **nudder12** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:24 pm

Yep, we had that loss comng alright - but personally I'm blaming the "dream" coaching panel.
The game plan going inside 50 sucks the big ones - any numbskull can see what we'll do - bomb it long...every...single...time. Yawns.
So the rest of the comp have woken up to us, and are effectively countering it. Have done for the last few weeks actually.
You'd reckon with the "best coaching panel in history", they'd have worked out some sort of better system by now.
And I think maybe that's part of the reason the players named earlier aren't living up to expectations - this game plan doesn't utilise their strengths very well. If we could run and carry a bit, and use the ball effectively to outside players some of the time, we'd look a lot slicker and more threatening.
I reckon the scoreboard flattered us tonight. Every time Richmond went forward they looked dangerous. When we went forward it was just hoping we'd get lucky from the mad scramble that followed the inevitable pack marking situation. I guess we'd be a chance if we had three Jetta's down there.
We're playing with a lot of energy and determination, and after the last couple of years that's great to see, but we're going to need some more system to our play to actually be a threat.

stryper · Post by **stryper** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:27 pm

50 metres - Davey - Ok I can accept that so why was it not payed down the other end of the ground...
And while I'm at it Well done idiots for destroying Stantons confidence completely now...
You bunch of spastics...

Good to see though that Stants had a shocker and nobody booed or jeered him...
Please turn it around now...
When Hirdy speaks we sit up and take notice...

Windy_Hill · Post by **Windy_Hill** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:30 pm

stryper wrote:50 metres - Davey - Ok I can accept that so why was it not payed down the other end of the ground...
And while I'm at it Well done idiots for destroying Stantons confidence completely now...
You bunch of spastics...
Good to see though that Stants had a shocker and nobody booed or jeered him...
Please turn it around now...
When Hirdy speaks we sit up and take notice...

Stanton was beyond appaling tonight and I hope HIrd makes him sit up and take notice.

s'dreams · Post by **s'dreams** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:36 pm

Windy_Hill wrote:
stryper wrote:50 metres - Davey - Ok I can accept that so why was it not payed down the other end of the ground...
And while I'm at it Well done idiots for destroying Stantons confidence completely now...
You bunch of spastics...
Good to see though that Stants had a shocker and nobody booed or jeered him...
Please turn it around now...
When Hirdy speaks we sit up and take notice...

Stanton was beyond appaling tonight and I hope HIrd makes him sit up and take notice.

A couple more should be added to this list.

pevfan · Post by **pevfan** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:38 pm

Lloydy could see it coming...nominated it before the game. He thought they looked very flat the week before and then you throw in injuries and stupidness to lose Watson and Hocking on top of ALL the other injuries and Yes...it certainly was a loss we had coming...the bye can't come soon enough for us ATM.

robrulz5 · Post by **robrulz5** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:41 pm

stryper wrote: Good to see though that Stants had a shocker and nobody booed or jeered him...

You must have been at a different game as he was booed every time he went near the ball.

Windy_Hill · Post by **Windy_Hill** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:42 pm

pevfan wrote:Lloydy could see it coming...nominated it before the game. He thought they looked very flat the week before and then you throw in injuries and stupidness to lose Watson and Hocking on top of ALL the other injuries and Yes...it certainly was a loss we had coming...the bye can't come soon enough for us ATM.

Not only Lloydy saw this coming

http://www.bombertalk4.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11474

stryper · Post by **stryper** » Sun May 22, 2011 12:03 am

wasn't at the game tonight but it couldn't have been too bad as it didn't come across tv as it did 2 weeks ago...

Royza · Post by **Royza** » Sun May 22, 2011 12:07 am

Could've done with the bye this week. Over the past few weeks, the game plan has slackened off. The long balls are done without any thought. The forward press has become half-arsed at times. Seeing Rich go coast-to-coast was unbearable. Having said that, you take 2 of your best midfielders out of a team's rotations and it's going to have an effect. We still won the hitouts (albeit against a 6 gamer) (+15), dominated the contested ball (+34), and clearances (+22), and had 12 more inside 50s. Credit to Lonergan, Heppell, McVeigh, Howlett. That should be a positive, but the fact that we lost highlights how ordinary we were in other areas.

We really were beyond awful moving the ball. Only had 7 players above 70% efficiency and had 54 clangers for the game. Richmond had 17 players above 70% and 49 clangers.
Reminded me of the Dawks loss last yr, letting them out the back on cheap counter-attacks, and letting them spread too easily.

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