The bullshit is starting again

[BenDoolan]

To be fair - he did.

"We really lost it in that first quarter and the psychology of football is that we have to work out why we started like that, but I think Fremantle were better for more of the game than we were," Hird said.

"We had a good patch in the last quarter, but it was a disappointing effort overall.

"We lost our structure a couple of times, which was disappointing, because we have talked about that. They certainly dictated to our players where they went, which was disappointing as well. Structurally the first quarter was very disappointing and we didn't start the way we should have."

FFS some of you people are deluded.

And to be fair, I'm only commenting on what is presented in here. I never heard the press conference.

[MH_Bomber]

I am NOT the one throwing the towel. I honestly believe we can re-find our early form this year. All I am saying, even if we do re capture our better form we still cant be considered a top side as yet. The carry on from some people throughout these threads is ridiculous.

Richmond, Melbourne and particularly Fremantle are all very capable of playing pretty good footy. Its not such a disgrace to lose to these sides - its bloody annoying because confidence and success breeds greater confidence and success. You will also notice each of these sides played possibly their best footy to beat us.

[Ossie]

To be fair - he did.

"We really lost it in that first quarter and the psychology of football is that we have to work out why we started like that, but I think Fremantle were better for more of the game than we were," Hird said.

"We had a good patch in the last quarter, but it was a disappointing effort overall.

"We lost our structure a couple of times, which was disappointing, because we have talked about that. They certainly dictated to our players where they went, which was disappointing as well. Structurally the first quarter was very disappointing and we didn't start the way we should have."

FFS some of you people are deluded.

And to be fair, I'm only commenting on what is presented in here. I never heard the press conference.

Fair enough. Just shows how you can twist words to say whatever you want really!

[BenDoolan]

I am NOT the one throwing the towel. I honestly believe we can re-find our early form this year. All I am saying, even if we do re capture our better form we still cant be considered a top side as yet. The carry on from some people throughout these threads is ridiculous.

Why is it 'ridiculous'? The only ridiculous thing I see is the serious lack of effort on the footy field. And there's no denying that. And even more 'riduculous' is the fact it aint because of our inexperienced players that we're crap all of a sudden, it's blokes with over 100 games experience.

Richmond, Melbourne and particularly Fremantle are all very capable of playing pretty good footy. Its not such a disgrace to lose to these sides - its bloody annoying because confidence and success breeds greater confidence and success. You will also notice each of these sides played possibly their best footy to beat us.

Newsflash:
Richmond haven't won a game since playing us.
Melbourne had 3 debutants, 5 players under 5 games experience and a total of 12 players with under 30 games experience.
Freo had only won one game out of the last 5 weeks (beating only Port).

[MH_Bomber]

Newsflash:
Richmond haven't won a game since playing us.
Melbourne had 3 debutants, 5 players under 5 games experience and a total of 12 players with under 30 games experience.
Freo had only won one game out of the last 5 weeks (beating only Port).

How many games have Richmond played in Darwin ? They then played Sydney in Sydney. Melbourne's form against us is more reflective of their abilities than their prior form and they had 2 big inclusions in the names of Scully and Trengrove. They historically always fire up against us.

Freo stuck with Hawthorn here for 3 quarters until Hawthorn got a run on.

[BenDoolan]

Newsflash:
Richmond haven't won a game since playing us.
Melbourne had 3 debutants, 5 players under 5 games experience and a total of 12 players with under 30 games experience.
Freo had only won one game out of the last 5 weeks (beating only Port).

How many games have Richmond played in Darwin ? They then played Sydney in Sydney. Melbourne's form against us is more reflective of their abilities than their prior form and they had 2 big inclusions in the names of Scully and Trengrove. They historically always fire up against us.

Freo stuck with Hawthorn here for 3 quarters until Hawthorn got a run on.

Unvelievable.

[Bomber_Fan]

Firstly BomberFan why listen to SEN ? Secondly why pay any heed to anyone of Richmond or Carlton persuasion ? They say the same things about us when we are flying !!!!!

Touche! But it wasn't anyone of Carlton persuasions praising the likes of Duigan and Co., it was KB and I have to say it made me sick to my stomach. If it was Carlton supporters, I would have just laughed at them but it was someone who I'm sure hates Carlton probably more than some of us here do. FFS I really hope some of these Carlton players stink it up in September. And it is always nice to hear from fellow Bomber supporters bemoaning another loss as it always helps the psychological healing process at least in my case. And there's not any other stations that have footy talkback on a Monday morning that I know of at least.

[swoodley]

Newsflash:
Richmond haven't won a game since playing us.
Melbourne had 3 debutants, 5 players under 5 games experience and a total of 12 players with under 30 games experience.
Freo had only won one game out of the last 5 weeks (beating only Port).

How many games have Richmond played in Darwin ? They then played Sydney in Sydney. Melbourne's form against us is more reflective of their abilities than their prior form and they had 2 big inclusions in the names of Scully and Trengrove. They historically always fire up against us.

Freo stuck with Hawthorn here for 3 quarters until Hawthorn got a run on.

The only one of the teams we played in the last three games that should have worried us (if we're as good as people thought) is Fremantle.

We never travel well and Subiaco has been a graveyard for many a Bomber team over the years.

But we should not have lost to Richmond and what sort of nonsense is it to say that Melbourne "historically fire up against us"

Historically, we beat Melbourne (the stats support this).

The fact is that we have played shit football for the last month and have lost accordingly.

[tonysoprano]

Wow - it takes until you get to the most elite level of a sport that you have been playing most of your life until you learn to play contested football.[/quote]

Okay lets re-appoint Matthew Knights then !!!

For God's sake the last three years we have been on the end of some terrible hidings because of a completely non accountable game plan. Earth to TonySoprano - we are trying to unlearn bad habits and learn proper accountable footy.[/quote]

And what's your reasoning behind why are we unlearning all the good habits we had from about Rounds 1 to 8?

[MH_Bomber]

The reasoning is that it quite common for sides to have a form slump particularly young sides that have been down for a long time. They are learning the new game plan. A game plan that they we're capable of sustaining with as full complement of players. The other thing is other sides have not been caught by surprise and have caught up in the fitness level department.

[BenDoolan]

The reasoning is that it quite common for sides to have a form slump particularly young sides that have been down for a long time. They are learning the new game plan. A game plan that they we're capable of sustaining with as full complement of players. The other thing is other sides have not been caught by surprise and have caught up in the fitness level department.

That's the simplistic view.

But our issues aren't fitness. We showed we could run out the game no problem. I don't think we raised a sweat all game. It's the pathetic feeble minded attitude they've been carrying lately. The enthusiasm and intesity they began the season with has fizzled into nothing.

But you'll note that the enthusiasm and intensity of our youngest player (Dyson Heppell) has not waned. So, the question mark must be pointed at the likes those with 100+ games experience and where their mindset is. They should be leading the way instead of being a bloody burden.

Looking back at the last 3 losses, I would suggest our best player in each game has been Heppell, Melksham and Jetta. So you could hardly blame "youth" for our form slump.

[paddyl90]

The reasoning is that it quite common for sides to have a form slump particularly young sides that have been down for a long time. They are learning the new game plan. A game plan that they we're capable of sustaining with as full complement of players. The other thing is other sides have not been caught by surprise and have caught up in the fitness level department.

That's the simplistic view.

But our issues aren't fitness. We showed we could run out the game no problem. I don't think we raised a sweat all game. It's the pathetic feeble minded attitude they've been carrying lately. The enthusiasm and intesity they began the season with has fizzled into nothing.

But you'll note that the enthusiasm and intensity of our youngest player (Dyson Heppell) has not waned. So, the question mark must be pointed at the likes those with 100+ games experience and where their mindset is. They should be leading the way instead of being a bloody burden.

Looking back at the last 3 losses, I would suggest our best player in each game has been Heppell, Melksham and Jetta. So you could hardly blame "youth" for our form slump.

Agree. It's certainly not the youth...i totally understand the frustrations of many of those players we've seen over the past few years get games and deliver zilch. Maybe Hirdy will swing the axe on them this week?

[little_ripper]

Robbo has stuck the boot into essendon this morning.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle

[Jazz_84]

Robbo has stuck the boot into essendon this morning.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle

finally... hallelujah

[tonysoprano]

Robbo has stuck the boot into essendon this morning.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle

finally... hallelujah

it didn't read like much of a booting to be honest.