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Johns
I love the bloke but I would like to know what other people's impressions of him. Doesn't he work hard enough to receive the ball from our midfielders? Or do our midfielders refuse to kick it to him? We become a little predictable if we're kicking to the same players all the time. That's what was great about our first half - we were actually trying to use players other than Lucas to score goals. But Johns never came into the equation!
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Can't make any judgment on him tonight for two main reasons: a) he was apparently close to being a late withdrawal due to concussion suffered during the week at training, and b) he was played in unfamiliar positions (defence).
I'd like to know what the coaching staffs' intentions are with him. When Lucas and Lloyd both play, he's basically redundant. But when Lloyd is out and we need him in the forward line, they play him all over the place and in defence. What's the deal?
I'd like to know what the coaching staffs' intentions are with him. When Lucas and Lloyd both play, he's basically redundant. But when Lloyd is out and we need him in the forward line, they play him all over the place and in defence. What's the deal?
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i've come to notice that delivery to johns is incredibly poor, its not like you can miss a man that is that big. this can be at times his own faults aswell cause he often leads to early or doesn't work for it enough.
He also lacks a second dimesion to his game, all the goals this season he has scored from marks which is great but when the ball spills to the floor or the opposition have him figured his skill to score off the crumbs is abismal. thus making him very ineffective and useless to the team.
He also lacks a second dimesion to his game, all the goals this season he has scored from marks which is great but when the ball spills to the floor or the opposition have him figured his skill to score off the crumbs is abismal. thus making him very ineffective and useless to the team.
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officially yes but can't hurt having him have a go too, if he doesn't want to have a second go at the ball then whats the point, you've got to be versatileEssendon4eva wrote:Good assesment but when the ball hits the deck its the job of our crummers to get it. So, if we lose the ball when it hits the deck our crummers are the problem.
we are getting beaten by sides that want the ball more, not rocket science
On at least a half-dozen occasions I witnessed the fowards almost breaking their necks and spines in order to get to the ball and mark it cleanly. The delivery to Johns is no different to anyone else - It's been SHITHOUSE!
Poor deliver, lack of leg speed, turnovers and not putting enough pressure on the opposition when they have it. These are our basic problems and have been for 2 plus years now!
Johns is too one dimensional to be an answer with our obvious lack of skills (and fitness) ATM.
Poor deliver, lack of leg speed, turnovers and not putting enough pressure on the opposition when they have it. These are our basic problems and have been for 2 plus years now!
Johns is too one dimensional to be an answer with our obvious lack of skills (and fitness) ATM.
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I dont think it is Johns job to be the skillful fit pacey player... He is a Hulk and is being played out of position for reasons only Sheeds can answer.
Did anyone see what happened when he was actually playing full forward at one stage in the last quarter? Yep he took a great contested mark in the goal square for a goal.
Our delivery always seems to be hitting players on our just out of the 50m arc or right on the goal line to be rushed through. A lot of Norfs goals were from targets that were hit 10-30m out making it a lot easier to score goals that some of the 50m shots we had.
Did anyone see what happened when he was actually playing full forward at one stage in the last quarter? Yep he took a great contested mark in the goal square for a goal.
Our delivery always seems to be hitting players on our just out of the 50m arc or right on the goal line to be rushed through. A lot of Norfs goals were from targets that were hit 10-30m out making it a lot easier to score goals that some of the 50m shots we had.
Yep, the target point for the incoming long bomb should not be the goal line, but 10-25 metres in front. We scored a few points from rushed behinds this way. We want to make it hard for the opposition, but a knock through is too easy. Keep the contest alive, we've got the talls and the smalls to do the job.bomberdonnie wrote: Our delivery always seems to be hitting players on our just out of the 50m arc or right on the goal line to be rushed through. A lot of Norfs goals were from targets that were hit 10-30m out making it a lot easier to score goals that some of the 50m shots we had.
These days a behind is a point/turnover and an excellent opportunity to get a goal down the other end.
The other aspect of our delivery is the high pass that allows the cheap spoil. These were seen every time Archer spoiled an Essendon player. He's built his fame around taking advantage of poor high passes. It sure makes the spoiler look good.
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Agreed. The prototypical mark and kick forward. So if he's in the team replacing Lloyd, let's stop frigging around with the pill in the middle and across half back and get the ball down to him quick smart. The guy is awesome on the lead, can take a strong grab and will physically punish any defender who drops in to fill the hole in front of him. Let's play through him, instead of constantly looking to a double and triple teamed Lucas as the focal point
Maybe insignificant, maybe not.BenDoolan wrote:He needs to kick a bag of 5 goals, just to get that sense of achievement and belonging which will boost his confidence at playing at this level.
I thought his goal on half time in the Anzac Day game was a bit of a breakout goal for him in his career. In the games I have seen him play, I would have put money on him missing 3 from 5. He was strong, good approach and kicked hard where before he would have tried to guide it through.
Hope I'm right.
Yep, I agree. Both those goals on Anzac Day would have been missed last year. He has had limited impact so far this year, but I just reckon if he could snag a bag, he could suddenly "arrive".84859300 wrote:Maybe insignificant, maybe not.BenDoolan wrote:He needs to kick a bag of 5 goals, just to get that sense of achievement and belonging which will boost his confidence at playing at this level.
I thought his goal on half time in the Anzac Day game was a bit of a breakout goal for him in his career. In the games I have seen him play, I would have put money on him missing 3 from 5. He was strong, good approach and kicked hard where before he would have tried to guide it through.
Hope I'm right.