Nash

bomberdon · Post by **bomberdon** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:04 pm

That tackle on the wing, where he collared 2 Crows players, rates as one of the best tackles I've seen.

A fantastic game...

sconsey · Post by **sconsey** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:11 pm

Yeh, was a bloody good tackle by Nash. Also like lloyd and Gumbys tackle. Essendons pressure around the ground was pretty good today.

BUT

I still hate this idea of zoning off the man with the ball. What does it achieve? We zone them off, we may stop the hand ball over the top to the next person, but while stopping that, the man that actually has the ball runs 80 metres down the wing without any pressure! It happened several times today, until someone finally approached the ball carrier, and suprise, they soon get rid of the ball under pressure.

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:11 pm

I think he's a gem.

sconsey · Post by **sconsey** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:13 pm

Bloody Oath he's a gem. Everytime he gets the ball you just know he is going to use it effectively. Today he also showed his defensive aspects, which was great. Surely going to be a 200 game player!!!

Post by **boncer34** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:14 pm

Top point Sconsey.

I've been trumpeting Nash for ages now, he is going to be a really good player for us now that it appears he found his feet.

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:23 pm

sconsey wrote: I still hate this idea of zoning off the man with the ball. What does it achieve? We zone them off, we may stop the hand ball over the top to the next person, but while stopping that, the man that actually has the ball runs 80 metres down the wing without any pressure! It happened several times today, until someone finally approached the ball carrier, and suprise, they soon get rid of the ball under pressure.

It is an area of our game which shits me to tears.

Boyler_Room · Post by **Boyler_Room** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:58 pm

BenDoolan wrote:
sconsey wrote: I still hate this idea of zoning off the man with the ball. What does it achieve? We zone them off, we may stop the hand ball over the top to the next person, but while stopping that, the man that actually has the ball runs 80 metres down the wing without any pressure! It happened several times today, until someone finally approached the ball carrier, and suprise, they soon get rid of the ball under pressure.
It is an area of our game which shits me to tears.

That is really frustrating. Edwards took 5 bounces running from half back to half forward without any pressure. Campbell (a first gamer) took 4 on the opposite wing about 5 minutes later. It happened constantly... and has been happening constantly for at least the last couple of months. Didn't get to see too many games early in the season to see whether it was a major problem then as well.

dingus · Post by **dingus** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:02 am

Boyler_Room wrote: It happened constantly... and has been happening constantly for at least the last couple of months. Didn't get to see too many games early in the season to see whether it was a major problem then as well.

Been part of our game plan since 2003. Needs to go, it doesn't work.

Brumaz · Post by **Brumaz** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:39 pm

I like Him. Dennis Commetti has given him his seal of approval. Must be good

pevfan · Post by **pevfan** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:58 pm

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sconsey wrote:

I still hate this idea of zoning off the man with the ball. What does it achieve? We zone them off, we may stop the hand ball over the top to the next person, but while stopping that, the man that actually has the ball runs 80 metres down the wing without any pressure! It happened several times today, until someone finally approached the ball carrier, and suprise, they soon get rid of the ball under pressure.

It is an area of our game which shits me to tears.

Here Here!!! ...Couldn't agree more. You don't get a proper appreciation of it when watching it on the box but when you're there watching that crap, you can see it coming a mile off...an opposition player zones off, his Essendon apponent makes no attempt to pick him up even sometimes when the ball is more than 100 metres away you just know the opposition player is going to have the ball kicked to him for an uncontested possie with all the time in the world to either carry the ball or pick out a tema mate even though we are zoning back. A zone defence works ok on the basketball court but not on a footy field because, guess what...a footy field is much, much bigger than a basketball court...theres too much space to cover with a zone defence. You are right Sconsey.

.Look at North, they are a team of no-names and yet here they are sitting 2nd on the ladder, what's their secret? I heard Tony Shaw (I think it was) on 3AW talking about the Roos on Sunday. I thought he made a very interesting comment...He reckons North are the best team in the comp when they haven't got the ball. Well I reckon if North are the best then we would have to be one of the worst.

I never see North play (I missed ourgame against them this year)except on the box and as I said you can't pick it up on there, but whatever they are doing when they haven't got the ball, it's obviously working...time our coaching panel started taking a leaf I reckon cos as Sconsey wrote are plan just aint working.