Hawks in Crisis?

j-mac31 · Post by **j-mac31** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:29 pm

rama_fan wrote:However if someone would like to private message me who is suspected it would be appreciated!!

Good idea. If possible, me too.

j-mac31 · Post by **j-mac31** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:34 pm

I don't think that we should know private medical records of players.

BUT

I don't think that AFL should suppress names of players caught for two reasons:

1. We seem to find out anyway.

2. I think clubs and fans deserve to know. Any club with a player caught once should learn, so that they are no as surprised when (if) that player gets a third strike.
And clubs should know if they are trading for a player caught once or more. surely it would not be fair if a player rocked up at a club and recorded his third strike at his first training session with his knew club. Fans would go mental as well. If it was "public knowledge", at least the club would know it was taking a risk or simply wouldn't take it in the first place.

Post by **Megan** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:28 pm

I know I shouldn't quote my source as bigfooty because that ruins the cred right there but...

"Ch7 is restrained from publishing any of the names or clubs or any detail relating to medical treatment of players or other information disclosed by them"

The AFL added....."Any media agency who intends to re-produce or re-publish any information to which the order applies run the risk of being in contempt of Court".

Are we a media agency? I don't know.

uptick · Post by **uptick** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:57 pm

Megan wrote:I know I shouldn't quote my source as bigfooty because that ruins the cred right there but...

"Ch7 is restrained from publishing any of the names or clubs or any detail relating to medical treatment of players or other information disclosed by them"

The AFL added....."Any media agency who intends to re-produce or re-publish any information to which the order applies run the risk of being in contempt of Court".

Are we a media agency? I don't know.

f*** the AFL

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:57 pm

Gee f****** wizz. What a wank. So where is the defamation? A person's name is on a medical record saying they have certain drugs in their system. It is a fact not a fabrication. If this is the sort of legal reaction to a fact, then no player should have their blood alcohol reading released in the media when they have been caught drink driving and the test results appear on a medical record - BAC. Piss poor.

tonysoprano · Post by **tonysoprano** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:28 pm

BenDoolan wrote:Gee f****** wizz. What a wank. So where is the defamation? A person's name is on a medical record saying they have certain drugs in their system. It is a fact not a fabrication. If this is the sort of legal reaction to a fact, then no player should have their blood alcohol reading released in the media when they have been caught drink driving and the test results appear on a medical record - BAC. Piss poor.

agree - if its a fact - then surely it can't be defamatory.

Post by **boncer34** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:59 pm

Wouldn't mind a pm either.....

Pretty sure we dont count as a media outlet Megan, actually I'm fairly sure we could name names. BUT DONT.

I will look into this though if we'd like so we know for future reference.

bombers_rock · Post by **bombers_rock** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:44 pm

What is the world coming to?? What is FOOTY coming to??

Gyoza · Post by **Gyoza** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:34 am

Quite seriously...we could definitely do names. Definitely.

I think your 3 points for meeting the standard of defamation sound correct j-mac, but you then need to look at the damage this defamation has caused in order to determine the amount of damages. You need to show actual damage. Hurt feelings don`t count. The amount of damange from a BomberTalk poster suggesting you took some drugs would be lucky to amount to $5.

Anyway if you`d like me to just shut up someone please pm me the alleged names and I`ll walk away happy

On a side note I`ve brought up before, this circus again shows what a ridiculous idea it is to have the AFL (and any employer) trying to police the use of recreational drugs. Police is the most important word there, because IT`S THE f****** POLICE`S JOB. LET`S JUST PLAY FOOTY FFS.

azza78 · Post by **azza78** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:33 am

Well, I guess we now know why they're such a happy team at Hawthorn...

Post by **Megan** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:34 pm

Well BiJ, we're not doing names, whether we can or can't. I'm putting my foot down

And anyway, chances are excellent that the names going around are completely wrong, as to the very best of my knowledge the names themselves were never released, only the club.

Gyoza · Post by **Gyoza** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:38 pm

Well, as they say...when the foot is down it`s down....or, at least...perhaps they can say that from now on

Anyway no worries Megan, not that stressed...we all know the Hawks are a rubbish club, we don`t need any confirmation

Gossy7 · Post by **Gossy7** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:42 pm

I am pretty sure i know. Strong source.

bomberdonnie · Post by **bomberdonnie** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:09 pm

Gossy7 wrote:I am pretty sure i know. Strong source.

Feel free to PM me

jjono · Post by **jjono** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:03 pm

bomberdonnie wrote:
Gossy7 wrote:I am pretty sure i know. Strong source.
Feel free to PM me

And me.

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:11 pm

jjono wrote:
bomberdonnie wrote:
Gossy7 wrote:I am pretty sure i know. Strong source.
Feel free to PM me

And me.

And moi. Ta

grassy1 · Post by **grassy1** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:44 pm

Hawthorn might have 7 players with a problem,but to me 7 seem to have a Much Bigger one.

It was they who BUGGERED UP the BRAUN case,yet they will probably escape,because WEST COAST are DITHERING as to whether to sue a Sponser.

Whilst it was 7 in Melbourne that named BRAUN,TVW PERTH is still part of LITTLE KERRY'S Happy Family.

Be buggered if anyone can believe their source.Did she honestly believe we'd SWALLOW that nonsense about her handing 7 the Imfo,that it was in the players' benefit?

Or the fact that somehow,she just found this material lying outside in the Gutter?What was GIDEON HAIGH'S little dig in OFFSIDERS this morning?

Post by **Megan** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:34 pm

I don't believe a word of the story either Grassy, it's tripe.

j-mac31 · Post by **j-mac31** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:16 pm

Sorry I got caught up in someone else's query on defamation and couldn't resist showing off my knowledge.

However defamation is not an issue here. If you name names, it is contempt of court for breaching an intervention order.

Rossoneri · Post by **Rossoneri** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:21 pm

And Channel 7 may be in trouble. I hope so, serves them right for paying some hag for a "news breaking" story. Could be a costly month for them.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 61,00.html