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Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:42 pm
by Rover99
boncer34 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:46 pm
dodgey wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:53 pm
Think... (well really hope) Zerrett stays.
The silence surrounding Saad and Daniher is alarmingly.
Just another Dudoro move.... probably trying to clear $$ to give Cameron $1.2m a season
Geelong have come for Zerrett pretty hard.
So next year we'll see Zerrett a foot taller and 15kg heavier?
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:57 pm
by BenDoolan
Windy_Hill wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:05 pm
boncer34 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:32 pm
Saad, Daniher and Zerrett potentially gone.
What an off-season
I wonder if Fantasia will be added to that list?
Shocked but not surprised to hear Merrett may want out.
I guess if there is any upside we can secure a handful of high draft picks and be forced to face the reality that a rebuild is underway
Possibly Aaron Francis too. Get the feeling he’s jack of the joint as well.
Unreal.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:38 am
by Windy_Hill
We will likely end up with pick 6 on ladder position. We don’t have a second round pick this year. As such our next pick is 41 I think
Not good in what needs to be a year where drafting players for the future is necessary. So honestly speaking, and not trying to have an agenda on any one player, if we did have an exodus involving the above mentioned players, including Francis, then we could do some serious damage at the draft table. Not sure if it’s a great year to be relying on the draft but hey, it is what it is.
So let’s assume the following players are traded for draft picks. And again, I am not suggesting we should or we shouldn’t, just trying to understand what we could gain in terms of picks. Please understand I am not trying to be precise here but rather estimate potential value.
Daniher - lets say he goes to Brisbane who finish third. Pick 15 and possibly a second round selection, say pick 33
Saad- High second round pick and mid third round - let’s say 20 And 40
Merrett - Mid First Round pick - let’s say 10
Fantasia - Mid Second Round and Mid Third round picks - Let’s say 30 and 45
Francis - Two third round picks - Let’s say 38 and 48
Result for Essendon. Picks 6, 10, 15, 20, 30, 33, 38, 40, 41, 45, 48.
That’s 11 picks inside the Top 50. These could be used to draft players directly or package up some second and third rounders for clubs needing points for NGA selections in return for players.
All hypothetical I know, but this is based on these players wanting to leave, if in fact that is the case.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:26 am
by dodgey
Not a great draft year by all reports.
No underage footy to get a grasp on the talent... and a majority of those who might have gone high are tied to
Clubs via. NGA
And Dudoro would still screw up that many picks
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:38 pm
by mdso
dodgey wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:53 pm
Think... (well really hope) Zerrett stays.
The silence surrounding Saad and Daniher is alarmingly.
Just another Dudoro move.... probably trying to clear $$ to give Cameron $1.2m a season
Cameron will not be coming to Essendon Apparently he had signed a long term deal with GWS.
Latest Rumour about Parish. We'd all better buy a a red and black jumper we might need to play next season. If it is true the club only has itself to blame. JoeDan is here one day and then might be gone tomorrow. Wait and see hide and seek.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:54 pm
by MH_Bomber
Merrett should be captain.
It will be a massive indictment if we are losing any of these big name players.
No one really knows what big Joe wants to do but to also lose Saad and Merrett that would be shocking.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:26 pm
by Windy_Hill
Am now hearing McGrath is not a happy camper. Apparently disillusioned by the lack of professionalism inside the Footy Dept and the squad itself.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:47 pm
by MH_Bomber
Oh please say it ain’t so.
So maybe these hubs have given some of these blokes direct insight into how other clubs operate and they are starting to think outside the confines of what is normally sheltered club life.
If we are going to lose the likes of Daniher, Saad, McGrath and Merrett the club really needs to do something quickly to convince them the place will be worth staying at next year. A new regime might be the only thing that could do that.
Otherwise we may as well turn over a lot more players and go back to square one. I can’t see the point of losing these blokes but hanging onto blokes like Heppell, Hurley, Gleeson, Smith and Hooker. That means at least 5 to 7 more years in the wilderness.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:51 pm
by Rover99
Yeah delist them all. Get a grant from the AFL and get Sheeds to start a brand new team. That's what AUFUL wants anyway...right?
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:18 pm
by MH_Bomber
May as well merge with GWS then hey Rover.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:52 pm
by Rover99
MH_Bomber wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:18 pm
May as well merge with GWS then hey Rover.
Yeah GWM. Were in the right spot anyway.
But seriously, if McGrath is that committed he's a rarity so have the balls to make him skipper immediately give him a raise and buy him a brand new team (with the exception of 2 or 3 that arent already f****d up).
No more dairy cows in 2021!!
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:06 pm
by Windy_Hill
Rover99 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:52 pm
MH_Bomber wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:18 pm
May as well merge with GWS then hey Rover.
Yeah GWM. Were in the right spot anyway.
But seriously, if McGrath is that committed he's a rarity so have the balls to make him skipper immediately give him a raise and buy him a brand new team (with the exception of 2 or 3 that arent already f****d up).
No more dairy cows in 2021!!
no question about it - McGrath must be offered the captaincy. Merrett and Draper as Vice Captains. Let Heppell play out his career focusing on playing.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:04 pm
by MH_Bomber
Agreed. McGrath would be a worthy captain. If we are keeping any of Heppell Hooker and Hurley they need to help the younger players and not be gifted games.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:26 pm
by mdso
I heard Geelong were also looking at Parish. Looking at.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:11 pm
by Windy_Hill
mdso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:26 pm
I heard Geelong were also looking at Parish. Looking at.
Pretty sure Parish is still under contract but yeah, has long been linked to a Geelong move...would be a star there. Other clubs are circling our better players like vultures over a dead carcass.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:49 pm
by nomolos
Prominent senior players are pissed off that Bellchambers wasnt selected for last game even though he was right to play.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:44 am
by nudder12
nomolos wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:49 pm
Prominent senior players are pissed off that Bellchambers wasnt selected for last game even though he was right to play.
Think that's a fact, not a rumour
Hurley & Hooker disenchanted, possibly others.
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:02 am
by s'dreams
dodgey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:26 am
Not a great draft year by all reports.
No underage footy to get a grasp on the talent... and a majority of those who might have gone high are tied to
Clubs via. NGA
And Dudoro would still screw up that many picks
The private schools that Dodo loves still have their time trials don't they?
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:10 am
by s'dreams
nudder12 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:44 am
nomolos wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:49 pm
Prominent senior players are pissed off that Bellchambers wasnt selected for last game even though he was right to play.
Think that's a fact, not a rumour
Hurley & Hooker disenchanted, possibly others.
Hurley being disenchanted don't phase me at all.
Hooker - IMO probably should have called it a day as well. His body is shot and he would get maybe a max of 10 games next year (though 3LO was discussing the possibility of Hooker as well as Hurley going to another club for a year in a Hodge style move).
Re: Essendon Rumour Mill
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:18 am
by nudder12
s'dreams wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:10 am
nudder12 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:44 am
nomolos wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:49 pm
Prominent senior players are pissed off that Bellchambers wasnt selected for last game even though he was right to play.
Think that's a fact, not a rumour
Hurley & Hooker disenchanted, possibly others.
Hurley being disenchanted don't phase me at all.
Hooker - IMO probably should have called it a day as well. His body is shot and he would get maybe a max of 10 games next year (though 3LO was discussing the possibility of Hooker as well as Hurley going to another club for a year in a Hodge style move).
North Melb perhaps? I don't know what their defensive stocks are like now, given their mass delistings.
Then again, I wouldn't rate either of them in such a role relative to Hodge.
