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Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:38 pm**

Yeah,well maybe the bloke was right he's been offered one week apparently.Just what we need .

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:42 pm**

Rumours filtering through on SEN that he got a week.

The mind boggles.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:45 pm**

Big question for the club now. Do they challenge, and risk two weeks (meaning he would miss the winnable WB game) or do they cop the week, knowing that they will likely lose the Geelong game anyway?

Big decision and it could have big implications for our season.

MRC wrote: Andrew Welsh, Essendon, has been charged with bumping or making forceful contact from front-on against Brad Green, Melbourne, during the third quarter of the Round Thirteen match between Essendon and Melbourne, played at Telstra Dome on Friday June 29, 2007.

In summary, he can accept a reprimand and 70.31 points towards his future record with an early plea, due to an existing five-year good record.

The incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of four activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level One offence, drawing 125 demerit points and a one-match sanction. He has a five-year good record, which reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 93.75 points and a reprimand. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 70.31 points and a reprimand.

Matthew Lloyd, Essendon, has been charged with charging Nathan Carroll, Melbourne, at the three-quarter time siren of the Round 13 match between Essendon and Melbourne, played at Telstra Dome on Friday June 29, 2007.

In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea, due to an existing five-year good record.

The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and body contact (one point). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has a five-year good record, which reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 126.56 points and a one-match sanction."

If we challenge, that obviously means that we cop the extra 25% for not pleading guilty, but does it then take away the reduction due to his good record?

Ie; if we challenge and lose, does he get 2, or does he still get 1 anyway (regardless of early plea) so we may as well go for it?

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:57 pm**

It doesnt go away if we challenge. So may as well, nothing to lose.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:05 pm**

Has anyone actually seen the incident that he was reported for?

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:06 pm**

Simple decision really. The club must challenge.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:08 pm**

What a fking farce the game is becoming.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:09 pm**

bomberdonnie wrote:Has anyone actually seen the incident that he was reported for?

I was watching the match on Friday night and there was nothing on the telecast that would suggest Lloydy was in trouble.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:28 pm**

HAHAHAHAHA what a f****** joke, seriously!!!!!

did crawford get off after completely "charging" Spider the other week????

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:50 pm**

The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and body contact (one point). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction

so why wasn't Carroll suspended???????

f*** I HATE THE AFL, seriously what sort of bullshit is that?????

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:58 pm**

I'm not sure how the points system works, but will he escape suspension if the report is "downgraded" to reckless- which it must at the least.

Intentional!!! Intended to charge????

Baffling, laughable

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:14 pm**

He should get off

There's no video footage at all of the incident, Carroll will obviously support Lloyd and suggest the contact was minimal and that it was more just a push than a charge.

It's basically the Maggot's evidence against every other witness we will bring forward.

I reckon we'll be ok.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:23 pm**

rama_fan wrote:He should get off

There's no video footage at all of the incident, Carroll will obviously support Lloyd and suggest the contact was minimal and that it was more just a push than a charge.

It's basically the Maggot's evidence against every other witness we will bring forward.

I reckon we'll be ok.

If there's no footage, how is it that the MRP have laid a charge? Based on what?

f***! Low impact - doesn't that already tell you something?.....

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:23 pm**

Absolute f****** disgrace. What else can you say?

I am fairly confident that on appeal he should get off.

Plenty of arguments, although I don't know how the process works.

1. After the siren
2. Jon Brown got off last year because of this
3. No footage, just maggots opinion
4. Carroll started the melee
5. Shitload of other worse incidents which players have gotten off during the year.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:33 pm**

nar lloyd did start the melee. If the tribunal are consistant he'll get off. Often though with high profile cases they make an example of them.

A negative is Lloyd attacked Carroll originally when his back was turned. If thats the offence then I just keep returning to the Goodes report where he got off, it gives me a bit of hope. That was far more direct and harmful as well.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:34 pm**

rama_fan wrote: It's basically the Maggot's evidence against every other witness we will bring forward.

Not even.

The Ump was standing right there and didn't see fit to report him.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:36 pm**

This is SO, SO disappointing. I just caught the news on Ch 9.

Just as I was getting my hopes up about Hirdy's 250th and Geelong being surely due for a loss, we are a big chance to lose Lloyd to some bulls*** charge.

I am so, so disappointed.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:38 pm**

Dare I say it?

Conspiracy!

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:40 pm**

From the world's crappest website:

ESSENDON skipper Matthew Lloyd is set to miss the Bombers' Friday night clash with Geelong at Telstra Dome after the spearhead was offered a one-match suspension by the match review panel.

Lloyd was booked for charging Demons' defender Nathan Carroll last Friday night at the three-quarter-time siren, and can accept a one-match sanction with an early guilty plea. The incident was assessed as intentional conduct, low impact and body contact and amassed 225 demerit points.

Should the Bombers opt to challenge the charge at the tribunal and lose, Lloyd will still miss one week due to his five-year good record.

If Lloyd takes the early guilty plea, he will carry 26.56 demerit points for the next 12 months and will miss the Bombers' blockbuster with the ladder leaders on Friday night.

There was better news for Lloyd's teammate Andrew Welsh, who has escaped suspension and has been offered a reprimand and 70.31 points towards his future record for his front-on bump on Brad Green in the third term.

Posted: **Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:42 pm**

The Club is contesting.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=5227
Bombers to contest Lloyd verdict
Monday, 2 July 2007
Essendon will contest a one-match penalty handed out to captain Matthew Lloyd in the wake of the Bombers’ narrow win over Melbourne last weekend. Lloyd was reported for charging Melbourne full back Nathan Carroll - it appeared innocuous but the umpire and match review panel thought differently.

The loss of Lloyd would be a bitter blow for the Bombers who take on ladder leaders Geelong at The Dome on Friday night. Reserved seating has already sold out for the match but some standing room tickets remain available.

Lloyd was reported for retaliating after Melbourne’s Nathan Carroll ran through him after a shot for goal missed on the three-quarter time siren. His bump on Carroll caused a brief melee prior to the team’s gathering for their three-quarter time address.

The AFL Match Review panel released the following statement:

“Matthew Lloyd, Essendon , has been charged with charging Nathan Carroll, Melbourne, at the three-quarter time siren of the Round 13 match between Essendon and Melbourne, played at Telstra Dome on Friday June 29, 2007.

In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea, due to an existing five-year good record.

The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and body contact (one point). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has a five-year good record, which reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 126.56 points and a one-match sanction.”

Andrew Welsh was also charged, with the match review panel statement below:

"Andrew Welsh, Essendon ,has been charged with bumping or making forceful contact from front-on against Brad Green, Melbourne, during the third quarter of the Round Thirteen match between Essendon and Melbourne, played at Telstra Dome on Friday June 29, 2007.

In summary, he can accept a reprimand and 70.31 points towards his future record with an early plea, due to an existing five-year good record.

The incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), low impact (o ne point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of four activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level One offence, drawing 125 demerit points and a one -match sanction. He has a five-year good record, which reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 93 .75 points and a reprimand . An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 70.31 points and a reprimand."

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