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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:38 pm
by Brumaz
Mrs Mercuri wrote:Johnno has had a disappointing year but i think Monfries would have been a better choice to be dropped this week. We will miss Johnno's toughness against Josh Carr and Solly just to name two.
very bloody true. lets drop a tough nut when we go in to play a team like freo

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:14 am
by ealesy
Mrs Mercuri wrote: We will miss Johnno's toughness against Josh Carr and Solly just to name two.
Solly and Carr aren't tough...they're snipers said that about both of them when they were at Essendon and Port respectively.

Besides, don't think we have to worry too much about Carr after the way he shat his dacks when Natrats dropped his brother last year.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:33 am
by Madden
I think I'm the only one who thinks the MJ was very stiff to be dropped. He was pretty much best on ground only 2 weeks ago.

He has been struggling most of the year but I can think of a number of players who I would drop before him (Monfries, McPhee, Lovett, Johns etc etc).

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:40 am
by BenDoolan
Staggy wrote:I think I'm the only one who thinks the MJ was very stiff to be dropped. He was pretty much best on ground only 2 weeks ago.

He has been struggling most of the year but I can think of a number of players who I would drop before him (Monfries, McPhee, Lovett, Johns etc etc).
Count me in.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:54 am
by jimmyc1985
Staggy wrote:I think I'm the only one who thinks the MJ was very stiff to be dropped. He was pretty much best on ground only 2 weeks ago.

He has been struggling most of the year but I can think of a number of players who I would drop before him (Monfries, McPhee, Lovett, Johns etc etc).
But our selection committee usually takes about 10 matches to react to a player's form slide before dropping them.

Lovett or Monfries could play a brilliant final 4 rounds this year and magical opening 4 rounds next year, and they'll inexplicably be dropped in round 5 next year for their poor form this year.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:09 pm
by Madden
Very true Jim.

There's a lot of blokes who are running around in this team who don't seem to have a role. Are Lovett and Monfires supposed to be goal sneaks, penetrating half forward flankers, or midfielders? They haven't been able to fulfill either of those roles. And what is McPhee's role?

Can't believe that in a team where those three (and Johns) are still playing, you would drop MJ, a man who won us the game two weeks ago. He's not in great form, but at least there is the potential that he could do something. We are still trying to make the finals, right?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:51 pm
by j-mac31
And so ends MJs run of 80 consecutive games! Not bad considering he hasn't been fantastic over the past few years.

And why not drop McPhee? At least Johnson kicked a few goals two games ago.

And don't give me the crap about "Campo is in instead of Houli for experience". We need players who will give it their all and put their body on the line when required. And quick players too. Plus there is already plenty of experience out there. Disgraceful.
Anyway, Monfries probably should have been dropped again, may yet happen I suppose.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:33 pm
by Rossoneri
The final team is:
ESSENDON
B: Lovett-Murray, Ryder, Fletcher
HB: McPhee, Michael, Reimers
C: Slattery, McVeigh, Monfries
HF: Lucas, Gumbleton, Lovett
F: Nash, Lloyd, Welsh
FOLL: Laycock, Stanton, Winderlich
I/C:, Dyson, Hille, Peverill, Watson
EM: Johns, Ramanauskas, Camporeale
IN: Dyson, Gumbleton, Reimers
OUT: M.Johnson, Johns, Ramanauskas

Rama has gone over, just in case someone gets injured. Possibly Stanton might not come up, has the sniffles apparently.

Ryder on pavlich? Wouldnt mind seeing that, though he may be better suited to Tarrant.

Dempsey and Jetta to play in the 2's this week which is good to see.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:41 pm
by KaaN10
IN: Dyson, Gumbleton, Reimers
OUT: M.Johnson, Johns, Ramanauskas

Wise.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:05 am
by nudder12
I'd be quite happy for Campo to be in - when fit he's a quality player and I'm tired of people here saying otherwise. He may not be our quickest, but that doesn't make him our worst! And frankly I think he'd do better as a half forward than Monfries would.

Not unhappy about MJ getting the boot, but if it were a choice Monfries should have gone first, he's done zilch for us this year, can't think of a single game he's been any more than a contributor, certainly not one of our best, and there has been plenty where he's given us nothing.

Seems to me we've given up on finals. This isn't a seriously best possible finals aspirational team, I mean, and no disrespect to the guy, but why would you choose Gumby? He showed not very much in his first outing and there are more experienced and better qualified players at Bendigo, especially considering Subi favours running types. I'm all for blooding young guys, but when you're aiming for a finals spot you gotta go with experience when the youth doesn't offer anything extra.

For mine, I'd have Campo and CJ in and Gumby and Monfries out of the named team.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:02 pm
by Brumaz
any injuries that may have forced MJ out?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:36 pm
by grassy1
Will be there with BELLS ON.After I pinch it from that Dockers' fellanear where I usually sit when rostered on.

Gate 2 entrance.Anyone who goes to Subi will figure that one out.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:19 pm
by Windy_Hill
Will Gumbleton be a little squeezed out by Lucas and LLoyd?

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:24 pm
by Mrs Mercuri
Windy_Hill wrote:Will Gumbleton be a little squeezed out by Lucas and LLoyd?
Gumbleton will be used to stretch the Dockers defence no doubt.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:44 pm
by Gyoza
Mrs Mercuri wrote:
Windy_Hill wrote:Will Gumbleton be a little squeezed out by Lucas and LLoyd?
Gumbleton will be used to stretch the Dockers defence no doubt.
Niot a bad idea, just need to get the bloody ball in there accurately for that to work at all.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:57 pm
by Boyler_Room
Mrs Mercuri wrote:
Windy_Hill wrote:Will Gumbleton be a little squeezed out by Lucas and LLoyd?
Gumbleton will be used to stretch the Dockers defence no doubt.
An attempt to drag a Pavlich or similar from the forward line into Defence? Of course, it means we need to get first use of the ball on a regular basis and use it well to hit targets up forward, otherwise it's pointless.