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Said it from the very start and am saying it now

We wont have an issue apart from a possible punch in the face from the AFL for being so f****** stupid in our appointments

Looks like things have taken a turn for the worse - if you believe the shit printed in the media. Certainly not a good look on us.

Would have been nice if this had all of occured in October and November last year rather than mid season.

it just gives the media something to fill the footy pages on the dead days.(Tue-Thurs)

Better yet its essendon, which guarantees to sell rags....heck they even threw in a carlton connection to flog a few more.

BenDoolan wrote:Looks like things have taken a turn for the worse - if you believe the shit printed in the media. Certainly not a good look on us.

are you referring to the consent forms listing AOD-9604? Hasn't the argument been we have been given approval (according to Dank) that we could use it last year, and only now has WADA said its specifically banned?

tonysoprano wrote:

BenDoolan wrote:Looks like things have taken a turn for the worse - if you believe the shit printed in the media. Certainly not a good look on us.

are you referring to the consent forms listing AOD-9604? Hasn't the argument been we have been given approval (according to Dank) that we could use it last year, and only now has WADA said its specifically banned?

Well, in a way. I thought our defence was "yes we used it but we shown a letter to say it wasn't prohibited" to now saying "even though we have signed consent forms, it doesn't mean they were administered". Very contradictory positions to take, if true.

BenDoolan wrote:

tonysoprano wrote:

BenDoolan wrote:Looks like things have taken a turn for the worse - if you believe the shit printed in the media. Certainly not a good look on us.

are you referring to the consent forms listing AOD-9604? Hasn't the argument been we have been given approval (according to Dank) that we could use it last year, and only now has WADA said its specifically banned?

Well, in a way. I thought our defence was "yes we used it but we shown a letter to say it wasn't prohibited" to now saying "even though we have signed consent forms, it doesn't mean they were administered". Very contradictory positions to take, if true.

Yeah - doesn't look good - but not completely contradictory. We may have had "tailored" programs to suit different players. The consent form may have been generic to cover every possible supplement / substance that Dank / Robinson were planning to deliver. The club might be saying that even though Jobe might have signed a consent form - he may not have been given AOD, while Henry Slattery signed the consent and was given it? (God let's hope we haven't f***** up).

I refuse to listen to anything about this shit until the final investigation and ruling is handed down

The media is our only current source for any information and they have been regularly caught out for the lying c**** they are.

Let's just wait and see what the outcome is when it arrives... No point losing sleep over made up bullshit and exaggerated ego driven wank

exaggerated ego driven wank

I reckon that's about the best description of this whole thing I've read so far, donnie.

Nail - head - hit.

bomberdonnie wrote:I refuse to listen to anything about this shit until the final investigation and ruling is handed down

The media is our only current source for any information and they have been regularly caught out for the lying c**** they are.

Let's just wait and see what the outcome is when it arrives... No point losing sleep over made up bullshit and exaggerated ego driven wank

We are in agreeance, at last

Megan wrote:

bomberdonnie wrote:I refuse to listen to anything about this shit until the final investigation and ruling is handed down

The media is our only current source for any information and they have been regularly caught out for the lying c**** they are.

Let's just wait and see what the outcome is when it arrives... No point losing sleep over made up bullshit and exaggerated ego driven wank

We are in agreeance, at last

We have agreed before you just dont know it

Looks like the highly competent anti-doping agencies are attempting their "last stand" in a final attempt to look as if they actually know what they are doing.


Then again, more media bullshit is a more likely the source

Richard Ings today on twitter

with no positive tests this is a very level playing field. ASADA will have a high burden to prove any offence. Very high

and then

the burden is "to a comfortable satisfaction". So less than "beyond reasonable doubt" but more than "balance of probabilities"

ASADA must prove:
AOD is banned.
AOD was used It really was AOD (not counterfeit?)
And then argue fault.

Big ask.

I will add that it is not widely known that S0 substances are all "specified substances" so intent can become an issue.

Jazz_84 wrote:Richard Ings today on twitter

with no positive tests this is a very level playing field. ASADA will have a high burden to prove any offence. Very high

and then

the burden is "to a comfortable satisfaction". So less than "beyond reasonable doubt" but more than "balance of probabilities"

ASADA must prove:
AOD is banned.
AOD was used It really was AOD (not counterfeit?)
And then argue fault.

Big ask.

I will add that it is not widely known that S0 substances are all "specified substances" so intent can become an issue.

Absolutely desperate for attention. Massive ****head.

oh I agree, his comments are very confusing, 1 minute he is saying Essendon are stuffed then the next he is saying the pressure is on ASADA.... you had your 15 mins, time to shhhh now

Latest report is that Charter's evidence to ASADA:
(a) was much more substantial than they expected and
(b) pointed the finger well and truly at DANK.

Looks like Dank is in a bit of trouble. If this is so, what happens to his defamation case against Demetriou?
God, it gets more complicated by the minute.

Charter the convicted criminal who has admitted to providing illegal drugs to people now suddenly thinks it's a big moral issue?

My uncle reckons Hird is going to get suspended from coaching for ever after all this. I have no f****** idea where he came up with that. "He was caught lying."

j-mac31 wrote:My uncle reckons Hird is going to get suspended from coaching for ever after all this. I have no f****** idea where he came up with that. "He was caught lying."

LOL, you're uncle isn't Patrick Smith is it?

BenDoolan wrote:

j-mac31 wrote:My uncle reckons Hird is going to get suspended from coaching for ever after all this. I have no f****** idea where he came up with that. "He was caught lying."

LOL, you're uncle isn't Patrick Smith is it?

He does have a beard.

j-mac31 wrote: He does have a beard.

Oh, it's Uncle Caro then.