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Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:23 am
by Ronny Rotten
In : Anyone with heart & a tough mental attitude.

Out: Especially those guys who miss SET SHOTS FOR GOAL from up to 30 meters out on slight angles . This has happened a lot this year , it almost cost us a game against Norf , cost us dearly against the filth ( Crameri ) , definitely cost us the game tonight 6 - 16 FFS , even with our sub standard all round performance. By my reckoning 6 points (Crameri , Hurley (2) Ryder (2),Colyer ) & 1 out on full ( Hurley ) should have been goals. Game over by half time .
SCOREBOARD PRESSURE IS SO UNDERESTIMATED.

OUT : NLM , Pears , Melksham

IN : Hooker , Heppell , Reimers or Hibberd (if fit)

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:44 am
by Windy_Hill
Got to be a bit careful that we dont go too crazy with the ins and outs. The whole team were shite tonight but I will say this

1) Melksham is a player screaming out for an extended run in the ressies - he needs to work on his pace and decison making with the ball.
2) Monfries - I have backed him for many seasons but he is gone for all money at the moment. Looks completely lost out there - Jetta and Davey's decent form has pushed Gus to the cul de sac of football - he has no where to go

I heard that Reimers and Dell'Olio were good in a winning Bendigo side - could be worth a look.

We may not have Heppell for another week which means after the bye for him.

Hooker should be back which means probably a return to the ressies for Tayte. As for Tayte, he surely needs a few hard weeks with the Weapon, he looks like hi has lost his muscle bulk this year - maybe all those injuries have taken their toll

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:25 am
by swoodley
Ronny Rotten wrote:In : Anyone with heart & a tough mental attitude.

Out: Especially those guys who miss SET SHOTS FOR GOAL from up to 30 meters out on slight angles . This has happened a lot this year , it almost cost us a game against Norf , cost us dearly against the filth ( Crameri ) , definitely cost us the game tonight 6 - 16 FFS , even with our sub standard all round performance. By my reckoning 6 points (Crameri , Hurley (2) Ryder (2),Colyer ) & 1 out on full ( Hurley ) should have been goals. Game over by half time .
SCOREBOARD PRESSURE IS SO UNDERESTIMATED.

OUT : NLM , Pears , Melksham

IN : Hooker , Heppell , Reimers or Hibberd (if fit)
So you start by saying your outs will be those who miss set shots and then decide to drop two defenders and midfielder...nice consistency :roll:

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:23 am
by npskinner
Melksham definately needs to find form in the two's. Cannot continue to have 12-14 possession games with no impact. Great potential, and when on song is terrific, but as of now a liability.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:25 am
by bombercol
To be honest with you, I don't think we need to over react with wholesale changes.

Apart from a couple, the team played awful, arrogant football agaisnt a team they show no respect to.

I reckon they'll be pretty fired up next Saturday against a Sydney who has no Goodes after the coaches put the through the ringers during the week on the training track.

If this loss doesn't hurt like f****** hell so they want to absolutely torture next weeks opponent, then we need to start making changes and play those who give a shit.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:50 am
by billyduckworth
I would definitely drop Pears. Panicked every time he got it and turned it over or gave a hospital handpass off to someone else who then turned it over. The rest of the defence (especially Carlisle & Hardingham) did ok. The real weak spot was the forward line, who couldn't bag a goal to save themselves. We had way more inside 50s than them in the first half and should have been at least 4 goals in front at half time.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:02 am
by Gimps
I don't think they'll make many changes.

I wouldn't drop Pears. The bloke needs confidence, if they drop him to the twos every second week, he won't have any. For all those people on here that say players should be dropped to the twos to find some confidence - I'm not sure if you have ever played the game at a decent level - but I think that is bullshit.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:36 am
by little_ripper
Throwing this out there.

In: hooker hibberd gumbleton
Out: pears melksham bellchambers.

Ryder rucks the whole match with small spells supported by someone not specialised like carlisle.

And lets get our forward line functioning with gumby, hurley and cram.

NLM to sub permanently. Loners to play full games(wtf hirdy?) same with davey.

I'll wait for the flames then justify this slightly wacky proposal.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:48 am
by robbie67
LOL at the idiots calling for Melksham to be dropped instead of NLM. Must watch the game with your f****** eyes closed.

Oh and a double dose of the brain pills for you little ripper. Gumbleton? Really? Brains? no.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:53 am
by swoodley
bombercol wrote:To be honest with you, I don't think we need to over react with wholesale changes.

Apart from a couple, the team played awful, arrogant football agaisnt a team they show no respect to.

I reckon they'll be pretty fired up next Saturday against a Sydney who has no Goodes after the coaches put the through the ringers during the week on the training track.

If this loss doesn't hurt like f****** hell so they want to absolutely torture next weeks opponent, then we need to start making changes and play those who give a shit.
Good post Col.

After a night's sleep I have managed to calm down and realise that (hopefully) last night's performance was an aberration that will not be repeated anytime soon.

Minimal changes (imo) but a week spent on the track improving delivery into our forward fifty...the stats for inside 50's versus goals kicked was disgraceful.

Maybe the club should look at "inside forward 50's to advantage" because the normal stat only highlighted how poor our entries were.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:57 am
by little_ripper
robbie67 wrote:LOL at the idiots calling for Melksham to be dropped instead of NLM. Must watch the game with your f****** eyes closed.

Oh and a double dose of the brain pills for you little ripper. Gumbleton? Really? Brains? no.
Gumby
Played well for bendigo yesterday and id love him in. Makes our forward line very hard to handle.


Re melks your prob right.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:59 am
by robbie67
little_ripper wrote:
robbie67 wrote:LOL at the idiots calling for Melksham to be dropped instead of NLM. Must watch the game with your f****** eyes closed.

Oh and a double dose of the brain pills for you little ripper. Gumbleton? Really? Brains? no.
Gumby
Played well for bendigo yesterday. Re melks your prob right.
He has played one and half games of football at the lower level....give it a rest.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:01 pm
by little_ripper
Yeah and im saying rush him in.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:02 pm
by swoodley
robbie67 wrote:
little_ripper wrote:
robbie67 wrote:LOL at the idiots calling for Melksham to be dropped instead of NLM. Must watch the game with your f****** eyes closed.

Oh and a double dose of the brain pills for you little ripper. Gumbleton? Really? Brains? no.
Gumby
Played well for bendigo yesterday. Re melks your prob right.
He has played one and half games of football at the lower level....give it a rest.
But Rob...Gumby's the missing piece...get him in and premiership glory will be ours.

(either that or he will get injured again)

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:03 pm
by swoodley
little_ripper wrote:Yeah and im saying rush him in.
Why....what has he done to deserve a game at this stage?

Surely the club is now about earning a spot rather than being given one. :roll:

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:07 pm
by robbie67
Little Ripper, the location under your avatar has never been more apt.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:12 pm
by Jazz_84
Pears, Melksham and NLM OUT

Hooker, Reimers and Hibberd (I hope) IN



and pie in the sky stuff here but Monfries OUT and Dell'Olio IN

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:15 pm
by little_ripper
swoodley wrote:
little_ripper wrote:Yeah and im saying rush him in.
Why....what has he done to deserve a game at this stage?

Surely the club is now about earning a spot rather than being given one. :roll:
Bog for bendigo yesterday. Stack of marks, 3 goals, involved.

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:18 pm
by little_ripper
Jazz_84 wrote:Pears, Melksham and NLM OUT

Hooker, Reimers and Hibberd (I hope) IN



and pie in the sky stuff here but Monfries OUT and Dell'Olio IN
Monfries is a great kicK for goal. I just want to see it in his hands more

Re: Changes for Swans

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:36 pm
by little_ripper
bombercol wrote:To be honest with you, I don't think we need to over react with wholesale changes.

Apart from a couple, the team played awful, arrogant football agaisnt a team they show no respect to.

I reckon they'll be pretty fired up next Saturday against a Sydney who has no Goodes after the coaches put the through the ringers during the week on the training track.

If this loss doesn't hurt like f****** hell so they want to absolutely torture next weeks opponent, then we need to start making changes and play those who give a shit.
They will i think bring in guys who deserve the game though. If right hooker is best 22. same with hibberd.

Be great when we have a backline of hooker fletcher hardingham hibberd dempsey and carlisle.