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Michael Hurley

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:09 pm
by ace076
Has yet to play a good game this season IMO. Struggling bad. I cannot understand why we didn't just plonk him in the square nice and deep to try and create a one on one up forward. We kept bombing it to a four on one contest ALL NIGHT! Time to deliver on some of your promise Micky, too many excuses from us supporters, first it was his hand issues, then the cabbie issue, now??

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:37 pm
by Mrs Mercuri
Yeah the big boy is struggling at the moment... very low on confidence but I have no doubt that if he gets a bag under his belt over the next few weeks that form slump will start to change.

Could the comeback of Gumby allow him to do that, will take another defender away from him and give him a tad more freedom??

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:43 pm
by F111
He's up against one, sometimes two, of the better backmen now, and needs the delivery to be better. His endeavour when the ball is on the ground is excellent and he still makes opportunity for team mates via the contest.

Where he does need to improve is his kicking. He's a beautiful kick for goal usually, but it seems to have deserted him recently.

His second half in the backline last night was a good thing I think. It'll be an ongoing question...where is he best suited...and until we have another tall forward I think he'll spend most of his time forward. Another tall forward also makes it harder for the opposition to man up better, so the advantages are two fold.

By tall forward, I mean a dedicated tall forward and not a resting ruckman. Of course Gumbleton comes to mind as he's the one we hope can stay fit.

Is there another in the twos that fits the role?

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:50 pm
by Mrs Mercuri
Hmmm Carlisle was drafted as a forward and COULD still be another tall option up forward but it seems we are definately grooming him as a backman.. when Pears returns maybe Carlisle will spend more time forward??

Joe Daniher is coming in next year and will definately play forward as well as second ruck id imagine.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:49 pm
by j-mac31
Yep, Carlisle could go forward. I doubt Pears will be back any time soon, especially if Hurley goes back.

IIRC Carlisle has looked pretty good when playing forward. Great set of hands.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:00 pm
by boncer34
Mrs Mercuri wrote:Hmmm Carlisle was drafted as a forward and COULD still be another tall option up forward but it seems we are definately grooming him as a backman.. when Pears returns maybe Carlisle will spend more time forward??

Joe Daniher is coming in next year and will definately play forward as well as second ruck id imagine.
I'll be stunned if Joe plays senior football next season.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:05 pm
by Mrs Mercuri
boncer34 wrote:
Mrs Mercuri wrote:Hmmm Carlisle was drafted as a forward and COULD still be another tall option up forward but it seems we are definately grooming him as a backman.. when Pears returns maybe Carlisle will spend more time forward??

Joe Daniher is coming in next year and will definately play forward as well as second ruck id imagine.
I'll be stunned if Joe plays senior football next season.
Nah didn't necessarily mean next season but he will be an option eventually... only other forward we have running around for Bendigo is Ariel Steinberg but even he is playing defence this season and isn't tall enough...

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:35 pm
by Ossie
Hurley's having the same problem Lloyd had since about 2004. Our midfielders just don't give him a chance. Every kick is either on top of his head or to the defender's side. Sydney's pressure made a lot of that unavoidable last night but we just don't kick it to him well enough.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:00 pm
by BenDoolan
Thread already....

http://www.bombertalk4.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13132

He is in diaboilical form. No excuses. No blaming players up the field. He is just in super shit form.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:06 pm
by swoodley
Ossie wrote:Hurley's having the same problem Lloyd had since about 2004. Our midfielders just don't give him a chance. Every kick is either on top of his head or to the defender's side. Sydney's pressure made a lot of that unavoidable last night but we just don't kick it to him well enough.
That may well be the case but what is his excuse for failing to take a set shot at goal from inside fifty?

He's getting worse than Jetta used to be in terms of always looking to give the ball off rather than taking the shot himself.

He wasn't signed to the five year mega $$$ contract so that he could lead the league in attempted goal assists ](*,)

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:25 pm
by little_ripper
I think hurls is going pretty well. love him playing up the ground. So strong,busts tackles and moves the ball super quick. His goal kicking however is horrible.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:17 pm
by robbie67
little_ripper wrote:I think hurls is going pretty well. love him playing up the ground. So strong,busts tackles and moves the ball super quick. His goal kicking however is horrible.
Thankyou for the addition of your soaring intellect to the debate. It adds so much.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:24 pm
by Jazz_84
do we have to attack each other? was stating the obvious but hardly anything wrong with it Robbie, ease up

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:27 pm
by little_ripper
Don't worry jazz. With robbie its either abusing players or other supporters. The guys a peanut. You can't argue with an idiot.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:17 pm
by robbie67
The cripple adds nothing.

Why should I go easy on the dopey c*** Jazz? Go back and have a look at the thread That Gimps started on Saturday night. I think you will find that Little Cripple opened the door.

No wonders his mother tried to abort.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:25 pm
by Jazz_84
oh well can we at least keep it to that thread then?

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:26 pm
by Itsmyshow
My personal view is that Hurls should be playing at CHB. WHEN Gumbledon returns, he will be one of the best forwards in the competition by the end of 2013. Bookmark it.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:09 am
by boris
Ossie wrote:Hurley's having the same problem Lloyd had since about 2004. Our midfielders just don't give him a chance. Every kick is either on top of his head or to the defender's side. Sydney's pressure made a lot of that unavoidable last night but we just don't kick it to him well enough.
thissssssssssssssssssssss.

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:21 pm
by Windy_Hill
Itsmyshow wrote:My personal view is that Hurls should be playing at CHB. WHEN Gumbledon returns, he will be one of the best forwards in the competition by the end of 2013. Bookmark it.

He is a natural defender. He is not a natural forward. He could be a good forward, he would be a GREAT centre half back.

So much depends on the development of Gumby, Carlisle and possible Joe Daniher.

As some of you may have noticed, I have always believed Gumby to be the anaswer if he could only get fit. well it seems that the problems causing his back and hammy injuried has been resolved so it really now a case of wheter he can make it after so many missed games.

In my mind, I have always imgained a team feilding the following KPP (Post Fletcher)

Back Pocket CARLISLE Back Pocket
HOOKER HURLEY Half Back
Wing Mid Wing
Half Fwrd GUMBLETON Half Fwrd
Fwrd Pockwt CRAMERI Fwrd Pocket

Re: Michael Hurley

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:25 pm
by swoodley
It's funny how you talk about Hurley being a natural backman and then plonk Carlisle as your full back.

Carlisle was drafted as a forward and I think that he needs to be given a solid run in the forward line if/when Hurley goes back.

I also doubt Crameri's capacity to play long term as a KPP forward....he will always be better as a pocket or flanker with a "roving commission"

Hooker is going to be one of our KPP backmen and is already (imo) the best on our list in that regard.