Hille V Bellchambers

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Hille V Bellchambers

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I think the people in the Hille camp need to re-assess. Great servant of the club, but Bellchambers is a long way past him now.
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Yeah he is gawn when Ryder is back... Has done a few good things since his return but has done nothing outside that
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David Hille is a wonderful Essendon person.

But....Big Belly and Big Joe next year with Paddy Ryder.

Can't see there being room.
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Apart from a couple of good things tonight, he was deadset horrible.

If he has another shocker next week, I'll be concerned that he can't sustain top quality football against the better teams any longer.
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He was terrible tonight but his previous couple of games he has been good. You would think Bellchambers has gone past him now but I still think there is a spot on the list for him. Look at what's happened to Carlton's ruck stocks for this week.
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ZeroEffect wrote:He was terrible tonight but his previous couple of games he has been good. You would think Bellchambers has gone past him now but I still think there is a spot on the list for him. Look at what's happened to Carlton's ruck stocks for this week.
I thought he was awful last week until he saved himself with a couple of late goals. His first halves are the major concern, the pace of the game seems to have passed him by.
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Hille had absoulutely no influence on the game.When he had a chance to be involved, he spilled an easy mark and jumped at shadows.

At least Bellchambers has been rucking well, and when moving forward making a contest and kicking goals.

He didn't appear overwhelmed by the reputation of the oppositon . I can't remember the last time Hille played a good game v great opposition.
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bueller wrote:Hille had absoulutely no influence on the game.When he had a chance to be involved, he spilled an easy mark and jumped at shadows.

At least Bellchambers has been rucking well, and when moving forward making a contest and kicking goals.

He didn't appear overwhelmed by the reputation of the oppositon . I can't remember the last time Hille played a good game v great opposition.
Mmmm - rucking well does not mean getting first hand to the ball.

Belly has a lot to learn about putting the ball to your team's advantage. Geelong roved to him tonight -as they had a witches hat in the ruck - and smashed us at the clearances.

What he did do well was play in front on the forward line. Football fundamental - lesson #1 - Perhaps he could share this secret with his team mates - while they explain to him how to tap the ball to their advantage.
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BenDoolan wrote:Apart from a couple of good things tonight, he was deadset horrible.

correct. f****** awful.
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Glad someone brought up Hille.

He is useless.

Body language was pathetic. I watched him closely for the whole night and have not one reason why he should be in the team once Ryder comes back.

He was not even a presence down forward. He didn't lead, he didn't run, he stayed still, if he missed a ball he'd just give up.

Bellchambers is that far in front of him it's a joke.
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Love Hille but the time has come and gone for him... he jumps waaaay to early in the ruck and last night even went to ground after the jump..... seconds efforts, well there were none

If Belly can fix up his tap work he will be a massive asset
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Jazz_84 wrote:
If Belly can fix up his tap work he will be a massive asset
Bit of that and a bit of our players reading his taps better than the opposition. We really struggle when any of our plans go to water. He just kept tapping it to the sames spots all night
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bomberdonnie wrote:
Jazz_84 wrote:
If Belly can fix up his tap work he will be a massive asset
Bit of that and a bit of our players reading his taps better than the opposition. We really struggle when any of our plans go to water. He just kept tapping it to the sames spots all night
also tapping backwards where he can't see quite a bit
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Jazz_84 wrote:
bomberdonnie wrote:
Jazz_84 wrote:
If Belly can fix up his tap work he will be a massive asset
Bit of that and a bit of our players reading his taps better than the opposition. We really struggle when any of our plans go to water. He just kept tapping it to the sames spots all night
also tapping backwards where he can't see quite a bit
True on both counts.

We lack a 'plan B' in most areas of our game and Belly is a prime example.

From half time onwards he could have/should have tried thumping the ball to our advantge - ala Clark Keating or chose a point - forward of play - that he would target. No two consecutive taps were the same and no two consecutive taps were taken by us - even though he won 90% of them.

I know we have the great man - Simon Madden - as his coach - Mantis needs to get to work big time with belly.
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Agree. As I said elsewhere, outside of the odd good thing, Hille is too slow or does something retarded.
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Hille has been a terrific player for the club. He had a great year when Lloydy ripped his hammy off the bone in 2006. Unfortunately it looks like his time is up and I doubt he'll go on, either voluntarily or via a tap on the shoulder.

A great Bomber soldier...

Tom Bellchambers has earned the spot without any free rides.
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Has looked very slow and tired since coming back into the team.
Also looks worried that he might be reported (given his history and the weird stuff the MRP cites these days).
I noticed him hanging back/holding back from tackles or bumps quite a few times.
Is he still carrying some kind of injury or just run out of steam as a player?
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Hille is gone. Just way too slow. His value has never been in the ruck contests per se (he's only ever been serviceable) but his ability to run around the ground and link like a midfielder, or sometimes play forward and provide a target. He's largely lost that ability.
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The Fly wrote:Hille has been a terrific player for the club. He had a great year when Lloydy ripped his hammy off the bone in 2006. Unfortunately it looks like his time is up and I doubt he'll go on, either voluntarily or via a tap on the shoulder.

A great Bomber soldier...

Tom Bellchambers has earned the spot without any free rides.
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Hille had a shocker. As was said above he looked very slow and when he didn't mark it his second efforts were horrible.

Good to see bellchambers kick some goals. Just need to improve his tapping efficiency and he will be a great asset. Sooner we get him and ryder back to being our ruck combo the better.
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