boncer34 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:58 am
Benny. You know me multi quotes get messy and annoy me soooo
1) I'm not saying we hid the appointments of Dank and Robinson from the AFL or that we went to them and said "we didn't hire the guy." I'm saying the AFL warned us about peptides, which you acknowledge, and then when we hired Dank they came to us and said "Hey is this about the peptides program coz remember we warned you about that?" And we said "Nah he's doing something else."
Ok, let’s take the above as gospel. Why did the AFL send away blood samples for testing in 2012? Injections started in November 2011, and a few months later, blood samples were sent to Germany for PEiD’s. They knew we were running the program. Other clubs were in their ear. They did nothing to stop it - only sent bloods for testing. Which came back negative.
2) That's 2012 Benny, we sent samples interstate in November 2011 to check for WADA banned substances.
There’s no record of that. Injections began in November 2011. AFL sent samples a few months later to Germany (see above)
3) I couldn't tell you which person specifically told the AFL we hadn't employed Dank to oversee the peptides program off the top of my head. I'd have to go back and ask questions and people I talk to, shockingly, refuse to answer questions over this anymore because their sick of it. And you can find it hard to believe all you want mate but we hid it from Doc Reid. You believe its impossible we hid it from people who weren't at the club every day but we were able to hide it from Doc Reid? The Doc believed we were injecting vitamins and amino acids and was horrified and flipped his shit when he found out it was AOD9046.
Yep, we were sheisters. Not denying that. Disgrace. We are culpable and copped a massive whack. We’ve accepted that. There are others who are culpable, and they have so far been ‘excused’.
But Clothier didn't sit on his hands when we hired Dank they did ask us what he was doing and we said he was doing what he'd done at the Gold Coast which was work with a couple of players recovering from injury. NOT inject everyone at the club regardless of injury.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree on the AFL’s culpability in all this.
Clothier’s title says it all. He failed in that regard. You can’t have 12 clubs with governance issues, some with similar problems in engaging in Dank to administer peptides, and call it a success.
It doesn’t matter if Dank injected players after injury or just part of a wholistic program. If the injections were legal, there is no problem. If they’re not, there is a problem. And there was a problem at our club, and at the Suns - right under the integrity officer’s nose.
I'm not saying the AFL is faultless but Clothier warned against peptides, he asked about Dank and we responded. You're saying he shouldn't have trusted us? At that stage what reason did he have to not trust what we'd told him was true? He didn't know we'd injected the players until months into the program.
Well, we trusted Dank that the injections were legal. Obviously, taking someone’s word isn’t enough. Did Clothier get it in writing? Well...there’s a failure of governance.
The AFL tried their darndest to try and isolate the issue to Essendon only. Essendon being the idiotic club it was, directly employed the prick, so it makes our club look rotten. But let’s ignore Dank’s Involvement in the Suns, Melbourne, Geelong - and who really knows who else.
Integrity officer. Well, what is he really doing if he isn’t checking the integrity of game?
Anyway, what’s done is done. It can’t be undone. But I don’t accept that the AFL did enough to prevent it from happening.