AFL'S DOUBLE STANDARDS. Herald Sun 13/5 page 22.

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AFL'S DOUBLE STANDARDS. Herald Sun 13/5 page 22.

Post by mdso » Tue May 14, 2019 1:58 am

The AFL never cease to amaze me, however this action, really takes the cake as they stoop to a new low.

" So its astonishing that the AFL can attempt to wash its hands of the decision by a "very senior person in the AFL" to give a character evidence in supporter of a sexual predator who has now been cleared to umpire suburban league matches that involve children."

Even though the applicant before VCAT now aged 57, has a long and shocking history of sexual offending. His first offence dates back to 1983
when, as a 21 year old he was charged with having sex with a 15 year old, who fell pregnant. He claimed he thought she was older.
In 2009, he was refused a Working With Children permit - a decision VCAT then overturned.
But in 2010, he followed and propositioned a woman, and in 2011 he pleaded guilty to wilful and obscene exposure and stalking. He was placed on the sexual offender's register, but that was rescinded after an appeal to the County Court. Because of those charges, he lost his Working With Children permit. This timer his appeal to VCAT, in 2013 wad dismissed.
In 2014, he was again accused of wilful and obscene exposure but he claimed he had been urinating in a bush and the charges were dismissed.

The AFL employee who gave character evidence told VCAT that the man was a "stalwart" of the game, who had been a junior and senior football umpire and a mentor to young players for "seven or eight" years before his 2013 disqualification.

VCAT vice-president Ian Proctor, in approving a Working With Children permit for the man found there was now "no likelyhood of future threat to a child by him." "Public interest is not in my view served by saying once a person has taken the wrong turn, that person can never be redeemed."

"Both the applicant and the AFL employee cannot be named because of a suppression order that VCAT imposed, in part to prevent "embarrassment" to the umpire. The identity of the "very senior" AFL employee has also been suppressed, so that the person won't be accountable for supporting the sexual offender with character evidence - evidence that had weight because of his senior standing with the AFL. "

No one will be accountable if this man re-offends. Ian Proctor of VCAT, obviously not done a lot of study on "rock spiders" because they are one sort of criminal that I would say are, almost non-redeemable. This decision is outrageous. Read the story in full in the Herald Sun page 22, AFL's Double Standards. This sexual offender certainly has friends in high places, who can change the course of the law not to protect children but to expose them to danger. This current Working With Children permit provides the applicant with a free pass, to umpire games of AFL footy for children which is like putting a fox in charge of the hen house.
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Post by grassy1 » Tue May 14, 2019 4:39 am

Pretty Serious State of Affairs there mdso.

Do you have a link?Have The Age got a similar story on the person in question?

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Post by mdso » Tue May 14, 2019 4:46 am

I have go the page out of the paper yesterday Herald Sun but I do not know how to post it. I really want as many people to read it as possible and particular parents who have kids playing in Austkick.
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Post by grassy1 » Tue May 14, 2019 5:33 am

What’s the Headline?

I stopped subscribing to the Perth Sunday Times(therefore Herald Sun),once Stokes took them over from Rupert,so I can’t access the Full story unfortunately.

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Post by Crazyman » Tue May 14, 2019 8:00 am

Some people are a waste of good oxygen. Might help slow Global Warming if all these turds were removed from the gene pool...

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Re: AFL'S DOUBLE STANDARDS. Herald Sun 13/5 page 22.

Post by Windy Hille » Wed May 15, 2019 7:27 pm

C’mon, this is pathetic. How does the AFL go unchallenged on this? Time to hit the social media pages and bombard their pages with absolute disapproval. Be relentless.

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Post by mdso » Fri May 17, 2019 3:37 pm

I hope people on here realise how shocking this action is by the AFL. Having worked with "rock spiders" whilst working in prisons in Victoria.
I have to say without a doubt the AFL are playing with fire. Having had close connections with people working in Community Corrections.
Community Corrections are the people who arrange for bracelets around people's ankles and track them. They keep tabs on all kinds of prisoners
on parole. Often, within a couple of hours of being released from prison, paedophiles; are often found in places where they know they are
NOT supposed to be. There simple isn't enough staff to monitor everyone and as we have seen bracelets don't always stay on a person's ankle.

Community Corrections unfortunately, are under staffed, under resourced and under funded. Within a few weeks of being on the outside, some
have already breached parole conditions in very serious ways which involve children, young adults and/or porn. By far the most horrific offenders,
see children and abusing them as way of satisfying their predatory, primal, desires. Many children never recover from being abused as it has been shown by The Catholic Church Royal Commission Enquiry and other facilities where children have been sexually assaulted/abused.

Many of the public think gays are paedophiles. This is incorrect and ignorant thinking. All the men I worked with or met, were either living with a women with children, or were married and had children of their own. Some had sexually abused their own children, others didn't and used living with a woman with or without children as a cover or a front; to cover up their predatory offending. About 3% of paedophiles are women. Obviously, these types of men and women, gather where ever children are and where they can establish easy access to children. Usually friendly, an ordinary good bloke/person, not all sexual offenders are creepy and sleazy as some people might expect. They seem to be able to work their way into places of trust at all levels of society, where there is plenty of opportunity to offend and offend they do. I am thankful, I have no relatives with children who play AFL where ever known sex offenders are employed.

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Post by grassy1 » Fri May 17, 2019 11:08 pm

Let’s see how that ends up mdso.

I see what you are telling us.Don’t risk those pricks at AWFULL trying to turn your words against you though ,Ok?
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Re: AFL'S DOUBLE STANDARDS. Herald Sun 13/5 page 22.

Post by mdso » Sat May 18, 2019 11:00 am

Yes grassy1 I get you. I want people on here to be aware not the whole world. I've been there are done that and not much has changed as a result.

The fact that I posted virtually the whole article on Bomberblitz hardly anyone was interested, a few comments not many. People are too busy with their own lives and problems. They simply may not have enough of themselves to go around worrying about others or; it doesn't affect/effect them or don't believe it will happen to those they love or close family. The interesting thing is the paedophiles have mastered the art of being a chameleons and they simply blend into all levels of society. They are hard to spot unless you really know what you are looking at. Many of the laws have not been worded adequately or changed thank goodness that is changing.

I think possibly paedophilia has been around since the being of mankind. And more particularly when women and children were classed
as chattels. In the days of our parents and grandparents, people were told to shut up, keep quiet, say nothing because the child will just forget
they have been sexually abused. Many, many, people who have been sexually abused do NOT go on and ever sexually abuse others but sadly, some do.
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