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Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:31 pm
by billyduckworth
We really need to lift. This is a season defining moment. If we lose today, we have absolutely no hope of making the finals. If we lose IN MELBOURNE to the Swans, we cannot be taken seriously as a team.

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:45 pm
by s'dreams
Rover99 wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:28 pm
BenDoolan wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:33 pm
Heppell: OUT

Langford: IN
Oh not the least bit concerned. Langford is AA material and someone even said he might be the next skipper :) :D
Not Langford causing stress - ZClarke, Laverde, Guelfi, Brown and even Merrett having shockers. Is Clarke tagging? Seems in strange places.

Clearances +9 to them, disposals +58 to them, marks +26 to them, contested posessions +16 to them...

Like the Wizard of Oz, lack of heart and courage and brains is hurting us. Come in Dorothy!

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:47 pm
by s'dreams
And predictably - Hooker has been pushed forward - too late!!!

Ailir has 6 clearances - 4 of which have resulted in goals.

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:55 pm
by BenDoolan
Last quarter stars - Parish and McGrath. Outstanding.

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:45 pm
by Windy_Hill
I can honestly say that we were gifted that game by the umpiring...that’s two games in a row against interstate opposition where we have enjoyed a +10 Free Kick advantage.

Essendon were putrid for 75% of the game, just as they were against GWS.

Our disposal skills have to be amongst the worst in the league. Our kicking into the F50 is nothing but hoof ball.

Of course will take the win but play like that against a decent team (one with its key forward and first ruck playing) we will get smashed.

Unfortunately without Bellchambers, it’s going to be very hard for us.

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:30 pm
by hop
Oh yes Bellcho is the saviour of this team......PLEASE!!! :roll:

Zac Clarke should never be played again.
Zac merrett should never be made captain again.
Our best mid-fielder (Jake Stringer) is also needed to play forward.
Our best forward (Cale Hooker) is also needed to play back.

In the last two games whenever we have the ball the oppositon are playing man on man - but when they have the ball we are loose and unaccoutable.
We play from behind - constantly.
We have 2 or three flying for the contest with no one at ground level.
We have no marking forward - until Hooker is swung into attack or McKernan is having one of his 'on' days.
We rely too heaviy on the two or three half backs to provide drive. (McKenna, Saade McGrath)

Umpiring got us over the line today - dont delude yourselves otherwise.

A competent and well structure outfit will decimate us in the coming weeks.

We are making up the numbers at best.

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:21 pm
by rockhole
We have won four of the last five and have crept into the eight. I don’t give a rat’s arse how we win as long as we keep winning. One of those wins was against a potential Grand Finalist. And don’t start me on “We only beat teams when they are without star players”
We are missing All Australians and club champions and are still winning.

We have seen some of what this team is capable of this year and also draw from what we produced at the end of last year. Take a look at the game against Port Adelaide as an example.

I know it looks ugly but we are still winning.

How long it lasts is anyone’s guess but it sure beats the hell out of losing.

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:09 pm
by BenDoolan
rockhole wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:21 pm
We have won four of the last five and have crept into the eight. I don’t give a rat’s arse how we win as long as we keep winning. One of those wins was against a potential Grand Finalist. And don’t start me on “We only beat teams when they are without star players”
We are missing All Australians and club champions and are still winning.

We have seen some of what this team is capable of this year and also draw from what we produced at the end of last year. Take a look at the game against Port Adelaide as an example.

I know it looks ugly but we are still winning.

How long it lasts is anyone’s guess but it sure beats the hell out of losing.
Indeed!

I thought the win today was gutsy. We were getting flogged in the centre clearances due to Heppell being out and Merrett copping a knock (and Clarke giving us donuts). Both Parish and McGrath were outstanding in the last quarter.

We found a way.

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:44 am
by grassy1
Glad Essendon found a way and yes,it may have been scrappy,we may have got lucky through bad Umpiring,but in more ways than one,we paid Sydney back for last time.Poetic justice reallly,after last time. :lol:

Can anybody tell me,what their record is against us in Melbourne,the past 10 times we played them Home?And How long did those 10 visits actually take?20 years? :roll:

Don’t any ****** from the outside lecture us about luck,after all the jagarsed bullshit escapes Sydney had,North of the Murray!

This result might play a part in Longmire’s immediate future.Watch this space!

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:47 am
by Windy Hille
Taking into consideration our midfield was hit by the absence of Hepps and Zachy (for a fair chunk), it was a great win.

I was concerned about Hooker allowing Sam Reid off the leash a fair bit, and was glad to see him shifted up forward. The usual slingshots were terrific for us - Saad and McKenna. Absolute Stars. Franga Francis was really good down back, as too, Popeye Gleeson.

Zaka was the cream on the cake today. Nice bit of polish. And young guns in Parish, McGrath and Langers did the job in the last stanza.

We obviously lack that key position monster up front, but good ol’ Smack is doing an excellent job around the ground and popping up as a cameo forward.

Fantasia just doesn’t seem to have any flow in his game. Been quiet for 3 weeks now. Hope he gets over whatever ailment he has. Great to see Stringer back. Class.

Laverde needs a big game or a spell. Just don’t seem to get enough from him. Houlahan is lurking for a spot.

Overall, very pleased with that grinding win. A great learning curve for our kiddies. Bonza.

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:39 am
by nudder12
BenDoolan wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:09 pm
rockhole wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:21 pm
We have won four of the last five and have crept into the eight. I don’t give a rat’s arse how we win as long as we keep winning. One of those wins was against a potential Grand Finalist. And don’t start me on “We only beat teams when they are without star players”
We are missing All Australians and club champions and are still winning.

We have seen some of what this team is capable of this year and also draw from what we produced at the end of last year. Take a look at the game against Port Adelaide as an example.

I know it looks ugly but we are still winning.

How long it lasts is anyone’s guess but it sure beats the hell out of losing.
Indeed!

I thought the win today was gutsy. We were getting flogged in the centre clearances due to Heppell being out and Merrett copping a knock (and Clarke giving us donuts). Both Parish and McGrath were outstanding in the last quarter.

We found a way.
Agree with all the above.
Winning ugly is becoming a thing - across the whole league. So many ugly games. Lower scores. It's not just us. All teams are setting up to deny the opposition the "switch" and it means the whole game is being played "down the line" in a contested environment. High pressure, skill errors, hard to find time to pinpoint passes into F50. Even harder for forwards to time their leads. The game, overall, is becoming a real slog.

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:53 pm
by Rover99
nudder12 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:39 am
BenDoolan wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:09 pm
rockhole wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:21 pm
We have won four of the last five and have crept into the eight. I don’t give a rat’s arse how we win as long as we keep winning. One of those wins was against a potential Grand Finalist. And don’t start me on “We only beat teams when they are without star players”
We are missing All Australians and club champions and are still winning.

We have seen some of what this team is capable of this year and also draw from what we produced at the end of last year. Take a look at the game against Port Adelaide as an example.

I know it looks ugly but we are still winning.

How long it lasts is anyone’s guess but it sure beats the hell out of losing.
Indeed!

I thought the win today was gutsy. We were getting flogged in the centre clearances due to Heppell being out and Merrett copping a knock (and Clarke giving us donuts). Both Parish and McGrath were outstanding in the last quarter.

We found a way.
Agree with all the above.
Winning ugly is becoming a thing - across the whole league. So many ugly games. Lower scores. It's not just us. All teams are setting up to deny the opposition the "switch" and it means the whole game is being played "down the line" in a contested environment. High pressure, skill errors, hard to find time to pinpoint passes into F50. Even harder for forwards to time their leads. The game, overall, is becoming a real slog.
So is that translating into more and more serious injuries overall? (Perhaps not so much, as ground surfaces become better generally.)

Re: R16. Essendon V Swans

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:23 pm
by Windy Hille
Rover99 wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:28 pm
BenDoolan wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:33 pm
Heppell: OUT

Langford: IN
Oh not the least bit concerned. Langford is AA material and someone even said he might be the next skipper :) :D
It’s gathering momentum...