Our Ruck Work

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:10 pm

I noticed that our guys seemed to miss a lot of the taps today (no idea of the stats though).

It appeared that Laycock was mistiming his leaps at the cantre bounce and when the ball was there to be hit, he was on his way down.

I have no idea if we have a ruck coach at the club at the moment, but our guys need some technical help IMO.

Rem · Post by **Rem** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:15 pm

Our ruck is f**ked. Hille is just another Somers and honestly, Laycock has no clue. He kicked a goal today, good on him.

But Hille is shocking. We need a new ruckman, and a ruck-coach that can coach rucking. All Laycock's taps were early and Hille he just kicks it into space.

Boyler_Room · Post by **Boyler_Room** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:16 pm

33 - 22 St Kilda's way

Rix 17
M Clarke 14
Koschitzke 2

Laycock 9
Hille 8
Michael 2
Lucas 1
Ryder 1
Watson 1

Isn't Simon Madden doing work with our ruck division? Not in Melbourne so I don't really have my ear to the ground, but that was the impression I got from a couple of guys on this site.

Rem · Post by **Rem** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:24 pm

We need botox Newmie to come down and have a few-words to the boys.

Cause look at that. Rix and Clarke just dominated. We should steal there ruckmans.

lozza89 · Post by **lozza89** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:27 pm

Well Hille was injured today, and is very likelyto miss Wednesdays clash with the pies, but i agree. Hille was pretty good last year in the ruck, and he has just gone downhill since the start of this season.

bomberdonnie · Post by **bomberdonnie** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:27 pm

Surely Barnes would have some idea of how to help them??

Laycock looked like the game past him by 15 years ago today!!!

Funny how we got smashed in the ruck yet Garry Lyon put Clarke and Rix in his worst on ground votes???

Boyler_Room · Post by **Boyler_Room** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:29 pm

Hille after the game today said that he should be fine to play on Wednesday. Will be interesting to see who lines up against Fraser and Richards next week.

Rem · Post by **Rem** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:29 pm

That's cause Gary Lyon is a dead-set wanker - and he's a little girl, backing that up would be the stretcher. He'd vote for that.

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:00 pm

Boyler_Room wrote:Hille after the game today said that he should be fine to play on Wednesday. Will be interesting to see who lines up against Fraser and Richards next week.

Hille normally smashes Fraser......don't know why, but he seems to beat him.

Gossy7 · Post by **Gossy7** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:29 pm

Rem, mate, get off Hilles back. So what? He has a ordinary game, he was also injured.

I thought other than his tap work, his rate around the ground scrubbed up pretty good.

Rem · Post by **Rem** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:54 pm

Gossy7 wrote:Rem, mate, get off Hilles back. So what? He has a ordinary game, he was also injured.

I thought other than his tap work, his rate around the ground scrubbed up pretty good.

Mate, each to our own. My opinion is clearly different and that won't change. When he is not injured, he usually plays ordinary [to me].

jimmyc1985 · Post by **jimmyc1985** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:05 pm

The ruck is certainly our biggest concern at the moment. We're kicking plenty of goals, our midfield is usually breaking even or better around the ground and, with the exception of our second half against Carlton, our defence has been cohesive and has kept the opposition quiet enough.

We've been soundly beaten in the ruck in every game this season. It places undue pressure on our midfielders and we're prone to being beaten in the clearances for this reason. I'm happy to grant some leeway to Laycock as he's hardly strung any games together yet in his career, but Hille is battling at the moment.

Eventually our poor ruckwork will cost us a match - that is, if it hasn't already cost us the match against Carlton. Freo got close to us mainly because our rucks were soundly beaten, and the same could be said of the Saints and Adelaide matches.

If we had Sandilands or Dean Cox in the team i'd give us a serious chance of being a top 4 team.

pear · Post by **pear** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:05 pm

I have been moaning about Hille for about 3 years. Couldn't believe they made him captain last year. Gets towelled every week. Would not get picked up by another club if we got rid of him.

Gossy7 · Post by **Gossy7** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:08 pm

Are you serious?

You wait until a few weeks when he plays a blinder.

king_rasto · Post by **king_rasto** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:55 pm

Laycock was improving steadily throughout the match today.
I think he will only improve as the year goes on.
Unfortunately there is very little room for improvement Hille but I think he still has a bit to offer the club. He was decent last year and the year before- just he is currently in a bit of a form slump. David will come good.

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:06 am

I'm not talking about the around the ground stuff. The centre bounce and at stoppages the guys appear to have technical problems with their leap and positioning. Most of the time they're not getting anywhere near it.

pear · Post by **pear** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:56 am

Don't worry about a blinder - a single contested mark would be a start

Gossy7 · Post by **Gossy7** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:30 pm

I saw him take one or two in the first quarter and he was killing Rix and Clarke by running off them in the center. Were you even at the game Pear?

Also he was injured in the second quarter with a bruised chest.

bomberdonnie · Post by **bomberdonnie** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:05 pm

Gossy7 wrote:I saw him take one or two in the first quarter and he was killing Rix and Clarke by running off them in the center. Were you even at the game Pear?

Also he was injured in the second quarter with a bruised chest.

Agree Goss I was actually thinking that he was starting to look good in that first quarter but then he disappeared obviously injured!!!

Sartorius · Post by **Sartorius** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:51 pm

I thought that Laycocks rucking was a lot better than it has been at times. However, I have a feeling that the club are going to try and get Mckinnon to become a key ruckman. The bloke is massive, although I haven't seen him play, the reports have been good. Ryder looks pretty good when in the ruck, and has a huge leap and is one of the better at tapping it to our players.