The Team (for our second final in July) vs Western Bulldogs

Madden · Post by **Madden** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:15 pm

IN:
Lovett-Murray
Camporeale
Lloyd
Stanton
Monfries

OUT:
Johns
Davey
Hird
Fletcher
McVeigh

Nash Hislop Michael
M Johnson Lovett Murray Ramanauskas
McPhee Peverill Camporeale
Slattery Laycock Welsh
Lovett Lloyd Lucas
Ryder Stanton Watson

Hille Monfries J Johnson Dyson

Heffernan Bolton Bradley

j-mac31 · Post by **j-mac31** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:25 pm

Pretty much as expected.

Good to see that the team isn't overloaded with talls against the quick Bulldogs, but still plenty of option for the forward line with Hille and Laycock.

McVeigh usually does a good job on Johnson, but who this week. Slattery?

If Ryder doesn't pull up it would probably be Bolton in to allow a tall defensive option without going slow (Bradley).

Sismis · Post by **Sismis** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:25 pm

Dyson, lucky, but i guess we need the pace. I hope Ryder gets up that is a good bax 6 V the doggies.

Sartorius · Post by **Sartorius** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:30 pm

Here is the positions as named on the club site:

Backs: Nash Hislop Michael

Half-backs: M.Johnson Lovett-Murray Ramanauskas

Centres: McPhee Peverill Camporeale

Half-forwards: Slattery Laycock Welsh

Forwards: Lovett Lloyd Lucas

Rucks: Ryder Stanton Watson

Bench: Hille Monfries J.Johnson Dyson

Lol, Ryder to start in the ruck (sure sure), and Hislop at full back!

Madden · Post by **Madden** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:36 pm

The biggest news from this team: Johns' career is officially on life support.

swoodley · Post by **swoodley** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:07 pm

Staggy wrote:The biggest news from this team: Johns' career is officially on life support.

Not necessarily...with Lloyd and Lucas playing forward, there is no obvious position for him against the Bullies. If we need a third tall forward then it's Laycock or Hille which allows an extra runner in the team which is more useful against the Bullies.

Post by **Jazz_84** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:15 pm

i like the ins

Campo's 250th aswell, will our guys even care that much? hehe

dom_105 · Post by **dom_105** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:30 pm

Jazz_84 wrote:i like the ins

Campo's 250th aswell, will our guys even care that much? hehe

If nothing else motivates them

WIN IT FOR CAMPO

DC · Post by DC » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:48 pm

The biggest news from this team: Johns' career is officially on life support.

LOL...good call douchebag.

We are playing against a small hard running team, we dont need a third tall plus Laycock and Hille who also push forward.

Secondly, I have seen enough of Johns to be pretty confident he is going to be a player for us. His attack on the ball and the man is second to none. As was evidenced last week when he set up Rama for his first goal. The ball was there to be won and Johns had to beat 2...he went in harder than they did and got the ball out to Watson who hand balled to Rama for the goal. Johns set that up.

bombers_rock · Post by **bombers_rock** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:03 pm

No surprises with the team this week. Should be a good match. Just makes you think - our depth isn't looking that bad anymore. It'll take some time to perfect - but it's looking pretty good.

dom_105 wrote:
Jazz_84 wrote:Campo's 250th aswell, will our guys even care that much? hehe
If nothing else motivates them

WIN IT FOR CAMPO

If they can't do it for Hirdy - a Bomber for life - what hope is there of them doing it for a reject from our arch enemy?

But then, who knows, they just might because its so stupid.

jayden1990 · Post by **jayden1990** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:04 pm

Gossy wrote:Here is the positions as named on the club site:

Lol, Ryder to start in the ruck (sure sure), and Hislop at full back!

Why is it stupid havin hislop at FB.... they might want to play him on johnson !!!.... i dunt think that wuld be that bad of a match up !!

Madden · Post by **Madden** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:25 pm

DC wrote:
The biggest news from this team: Johns' career is officially on life support.
LOL...good call douchebag.

We are playing against a small hard running team, we dont need a third tall plus Laycock and Hille who also push forward.

Secondly, I have seen enough of Johns to be pretty confident he is going to be a player for us. His attack on the ball and the man is second to none. As was evidenced last week when he set up Rama for his first goal. The ball was there to be won and Johns had to beat 2...he went in harder than they did and got the ball out to Watson who hand balled to Rama for the goal. Johns set that up.

Whoa - calm down cowboy.

I love Johns, I hope he stays, and I hope he will be a player too - but he has played about 8 weeks at CHB for Bendigo and I would have thought he would be Fletch's ideal replacement (and also considering that Ryder probably won't play) Hence my surprise at him being dropped.

Makes sense?

Rossoneri · Post by **Rossoneri** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:31 pm

Worried about the emergencies.

Cant afford for anybody to pull out at the last minute.

Rossoneri · Post by **Rossoneri** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:49 pm

Essendon have to decide where they want to play Johns, forward or in defence. No good him playing in defence in the 2's and playing up forward in the one's.

For some, like Lucas, it can be beneficial playing in defence for a while before going back up forward, but Lucas was already a very good CHF, just fell out of form and was switched to CHB.

While we have Scotty and Lloyd up front, now is the best time for Johns to get full accustomed to a particular role and allow himself to grow into that role, be it up forward or down back.

Im with DC, I think he has to stay, but he has to start using his body alot more than he currently does.

robrulz5 · Post by **robrulz5** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:51 pm

The ins looks really good but four of the outs have been some of our best players this year.

Who will step up with Hird not being out there? Could one of the younger players stamp their authority on a game and set their career up in the progress. Let's hope so.

Sartorius · Post by **Sartorius** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:51 pm

jayden1990 wrote:
Gossy wrote:Here is the positions as named on the club site:

Lol, Ryder to start in the ruck (sure sure), and Hislop at full back!
Why is it stupid havin hislop at FB.... they might want to play him on johnson !!!.... i dunt think that wuld be that bad of a match up !!

I think Hislop on Brad Johnson is a good possible match up, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him play there. I was actually more making a point that it is odd to see Hislop at full back, as he is considered a future midfielder for us. Sorry to offend you though Jayden !!!...

Ramanama · Post by **Ramanama** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:58 pm

Gossy wrote:
jayden1990 wrote:
Gossy wrote:Here is the positions as named on the club site:

Lol, Ryder to start in the ruck (sure sure), and Hislop at full back!
Why is it stupid havin hislop at FB.... they might want to play him on johnson !!!.... i dunt think that wuld be that bad of a match up !!
I think Hislop on Brad Johnson is a good possible match up, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him play there. I was actually more making a point that it is odd to see Hislop at full back, as he is considered a future midfielder for us. Sorry to offend you though Jayden !!!...

I reckon we will start with NLM on Johnson and hislop/m.johnson to change to free up NLM abit.

tonysoprano · Post by **tonysoprano** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:12 pm

Staggy wrote:The biggest news from this team: Johns' career is officially on life support.

I disagree.

Lloyd and Lucas can't play forever. Johns will be one of our most important players in 3 to 4 years. CJ is big, quick on the lead (check out the article in the latest Bomber mag), can take a contested mark, and has improved his kicking for goal out of site. He is still young, was out of the game with a severe injury for a number of years, so if he gets his fitness up, and some senior game time he will show what he has made of. As someone said - being dropped to the twos is appropriate for a match against a much smaller, running side, and certainly no disgrace getting dropped for a guy whos kicked 800+goals (and is the captain to boot!)

tonysoprano · Post by **tonysoprano** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:18 pm

Staggy wrote:
DC wrote:
The biggest news from this team: Johns' career is officially on life support.
LOL...good call douchebag.

We are playing against a small hard running team, we dont need a third tall plus Laycock and Hille who also push forward.

Secondly, I have seen enough of Johns to be pretty confident he is going to be a player for us. His attack on the ball and the man is second to none. As was evidenced last week when he set up Rama for his first goal. The ball was there to be won and Johns had to beat 2...he went in harder than they did and got the ball out to Watson who hand balled to Rama for the goal. Johns set that up.
Whoa - calm down cowboy.

I love Johns, I hope he stays, and I hope he will be a player too - but he has played about 8 weeks at CHB for Bendigo and I would have thought he would be Fletch's ideal replacement (and also considering that Ryder probably won't play) Hence my surprise at him being dropped.

Makes sense?

Fair enough Staggy - my apologies for not reading the whole thread before my initial post, but honestly your surprise in him being dropped wasn't detectable.

Being in Perth - I wasn't aware that CJ was playing so much in the back half in the twos. I still reckon the kid will make a super key fwd for us one day.

Madden · Post by **Madden** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:26 am

Gossy wrote:
jayden1990 wrote:
Gossy wrote:Here is the positions as named on the club site:

Lol, Ryder to start in the ruck (sure sure), and Hislop at full back!
Why is it stupid havin hislop at FB.... they might want to play him on johnson !!!.... i dunt think that wuld be that bad of a match up !!
I think Hislop on Brad Johnson is a good possible match up, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him play there. I was actually more making a point that it is odd to see Hislop at full back, as he is considered a future midfielder for us. Sorry to offend you though Jayden !!!...

Playing a second gamer on the leading forward in the comp - are you insane?

It would not only lose us the game, but completely sap Hislop's confidence the same way that Bradley's confidence was sapped last year.

Hislop is a kid. Give him a small job and let him ease his way in.