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Kickett: 'Feel my pain'
05 August 2007 Sunday Herald Sun
Jackie Epstein

DEREK Kickett, sensationally dropped from Essendon's 1993 premiership side, says coach Kevin Sheedy copped some of his own medicine by being sacked.

Derek Kickett
Giving to Sheeds: Derek Kickett.

The famous rift between the pair lives on, with Kickett saying he would never forget Sheedy didn't directly communicate news of his omission.

"It's funny he said the board had not been totally up front with him with their decisions and their communication," Kickett said.

"He's dirty on the club, but he should be looking at '93, when he did exactly the same thing to me.

"The Essendon Football Club and Essendon supporters have got to understand that he never spoke to me. He got someone else to do his dirty work and (football manager) Danny Corcoran told me."

Kickett praised the contribution of Sheedy, saying he should be proud of what he's achieved.

When asked if he had forgiven him he refused to comment.

"You've got to retire sooner or later," Kickett said.

"He's had a good, colourful career. He's played in premierships and coached in premiership sides. A lot of players and past players have never been in that situation, so he should be happy with what he's achieved.

"But, no, you don't forget it. It was a chance to get your name in history.

"I don't like to comment on that part of it (whether he has forgiven him). That's the thing I don't want to talk about. There's more to life than football."

Kickett, who works for AFL Victoria, said he didn't think Sheedy would coach again. He said Essendon could rebuild quickly.

"To be honest I don't think another club would take him as a coach," Kickett said.

"But as far as marketing or for help for the coaching staff, he would be looked at. But not as coach.

"They've got a lot of good young players. A lot of people didn't think they'd go this well at this time of year.

"One or two players have had Sheeds their whole career, like (Matthew) Lloyd, (Dustin) Fletcher and (James) Hird.

"Young guys like (Leroy) Jetta and (Paddy) Ryder, they can have that opportunity under another coach, like the others never got."


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nathanskinner wrote:Kickett: 'Feel my pain'
05 August 2007 Sunday Herald Sun
Jackie Epstein

DEREK Kickett, sensationally dropped from Essendon's 1993 premiership side, says coach Kevin Sheedy copped some of his own medicine by being sacked.

Derek Kickett
Giving to Sheeds: Derek Kickett.

The famous rift between the pair lives on, with Kickett saying he would never forget Sheedy didn't directly communicate news of his omission.

"It's funny he said the board had not been totally up front with him with their decisions and their communication," Kickett said.

"He's dirty on the club, but he should be looking at '93, when he did exactly the same thing to me.

"The Essendon Football Club and Essendon supporters have got to understand that he never spoke to me. He got someone else to do his dirty work and (football manager) Danny Corcoran told me."

Kickett praised the contribution of Sheedy, saying he should be proud of what he's achieved.

When asked if he had forgiven him he refused to comment.

"You've got to retire sooner or later," Kickett said.

"He's had a good, colourful career. He's played in premierships and coached in premiership sides. A lot of players and past players have never been in that situation, so he should be happy with what he's achieved.

"But, no, you don't forget it. It was a chance to get your name in history.

"I don't like to comment on that part of it (whether he has forgiven him). That's the thing I don't want to talk about. There's more to life than football."

Kickett, who works for AFL Victoria, said he didn't think Sheedy would coach again. He said Essendon could rebuild quickly.

"To be honest I don't think another club would take him as a coach," Kickett said.

"But as far as marketing or for help for the coaching staff, he would be looked at. But not as coach.

"They've got a lot of good young players. A lot of people didn't think they'd go this well at this time of year.

"One or two players have had Sheeds their whole career, like (Matthew) Lloyd, (Dustin) Fletcher and (James) Hird.

"Young guys like (Leroy) Jetta and (Paddy) Ryder, they can have that opportunity under another coach, like the others never got."


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Perhaps if he actually took the phone calls from Kevin Sheedy at the Moonee Ponds Centrelink where he worked he may have told him then. But each time my mate told him Sheeds was on the phone he said "tell him I'm not here".

What a sad, miserable man.

Still whingeing over something that happened 14 years ago.

Get over it you fat idiot. Nobody cares.

Agree, there have been plenty of players more worthy of a place in a Grand Final side than Tubby Kickett

Sure, a real disappointment for him but gee, get over it.

Not sure he actually said he wasn't over it. Sheeds has said time and time again if he had his chance he'd do it differently. Dont forget Kickett played EVERY game and did do some magic things that year.

Of course I still believe had he stayed with us he would've played in a GF in 1996.

The other interesting thing is that one of Sheedy's pet project Dean Wallis was a suprise inclusion, now I know people claim it was for structure reason but did we really need him? No one ever slams Sheeds for that decision though......

boncer34 wrote:Not sure he actually said he wasn't over it. Sheeds has said time and time again if he had his chance he'd do it differently. Dont forget Kickett played EVERY game and did do some magic things that year.

Of course I still believe had he stayed with us he would've played in a GF in 1996.

The other interesting thing is that one of Sheedy's pet project Dean Wallis was a suprise inclusion, now I know people claim it was for structure reason but did we really need him? No one ever slams Sheeds for that decision though......

These debates will go on forever and a day. I believe he was extremely stiff. People say he did nothing in that finals series - truth is, he didn't do much, and truth is, he spent bucket loads of time on the bench to limit his influence anyway. If Kickett didn't do anything during that finals series, then what did Wallis do? Answer: he didn't play a game until the GF. Strangely though, Kicket didn't bemoan Wallis getting a gig, he attacked Watson.

The issue with Sheeds not telling Kickett personally is rubbish. I know for a fact that he did try, but Kickett refused to take the call.

BenDoolan wrote:

boncer34 wrote:Not sure he actually said he wasn't over it. Sheeds has said time and time again if he had his chance he'd do it differently. Dont forget Kickett played EVERY game and did do some magic things that year.

Of course I still believe had he stayed with us he would've played in a GF in 1996.

The other interesting thing is that one of Sheedy's pet project Dean Wallis was a suprise inclusion, now I know people claim it was for structure reason but did we really need him? No one ever slams Sheeds for that decision though......

These debates will go on forever and a day. I believe he was extremely stiff. People say he did nothing in that finals series - truth is, he didn't do much, and truth is, he spent bucket loads of time on the bench to limit his influence anyway. If Kickett didn't do anything during that finals series, then what did Wallis do? Answer: he didn't play a game until the GF. Strangely though, Kicket didn't bemoan Wallis getting a gig, he attacked Watson.

The issue with Sheeds not telling Kickett personally is rubbish. I know for a fact that he did try, but Kickett refused to take the call.

Very true. Agree with everything you said to Benny.

David Flood was more unlucky to miss the GF. He played a brilliant Prelim and made way for Harves.

On form Kickett should have been dropped.

Still cannot get over it, after 14 years.

Essendon4eva wrote:Still cannot get over it, after 14 years.

Reality will say he never will. And how would you? Missing out on being part of the greatest day of a footballers life. Going down in history etc, etc.

I knew Graeme Anderson very well - former Magpie wingman of the 70's. He played in the 1977 Drawn and Grand Final loss, and the 1979 Grand Final loss. To this day he wakes up in sweats because of those losses, missing out on prestige and history. It hurts hard, more than anyone can ever imagine being a non AFL player.

boncer34 wrote:Not sure he actually said he wasn't over it. Sheeds has said time and time again if he had his chance he'd do it differently. Dont forget Kickett played EVERY game and did do some magic things that year.

Of course I still believe had he stayed with us he would've played in a GF in 1996.

The other interesting thing is that one of Sheedy's pet project Dean Wallis was a suprise inclusion, now I know people claim it was for structure reason but did we really need him? No one ever slams Sheeds for that decision though......

Mil Hanna does

That was Kickett's one and only chance to be in a winning GF side. He had played every game and helped us get there. I think he was very stiff to miss out but the result of the GF and Wallis' s hit man approach to the game which helped win it vindicated this tough decision.

swoodley wrote:

boncer34 wrote:Not sure he actually said he wasn't over it. Sheeds has said time and time again if he had his chance he'd do it differently. Dont forget Kickett played EVERY game and did do some magic things that year.

Of course I still believe had he stayed with us he would've played in a GF in 1996.

The other interesting thing is that one of Sheedy's pet project Dean Wallis was a suprise inclusion, now I know people claim it was for structure reason but did we really need him? No one ever slams Sheeds for that decision though......

Mil Hanna does

Poor bastard has barely recovered.

MH_Bomber wrote:That was Kickett's one and only chance to be in a winning GF side. He had played every game and helped us get there. I think he was very stiff to miss out but the result of the GF and Wallis' s hit man approach to the game which helped win it vindicated this tough decision.

Rubbish. Would've won without Wallis, only thing of real note he did was put that nit wit into the middle of next week.

It was a terrible situation.

Kicket had barely registered a stat in the finals series.

Yet that season he played some of the most remakable games you will ever see.

The day V the bulldogs he single handedly won us the game.

I was all gung ho to bash on about Kicket being a sooky cry baby bitch but reading that article, I don't think he comes across that way. I think the author wants him to, but he seems more interested in NOT sooking about it, but skimming over that part and then admitting Sheeds has had a good career.

So I'm not going to hang shit on Kickett. I'll hang it on Jackie Epstein instead.