Jobe's Journey

Doctor Strangelove · Post by **Doctor Strangelove** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:09 pm

How did Jobe go in the Bendigo game today?

Rossoneri · Post by **Rossoneri** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:11 pm

20 touches, didnt do much apparently.

Probably lost a fair bit of confidence for being dropped. But if you have heart, then you will get back on the horse quick smart.

KaaN10 · Post by **KaaN10** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:16 pm

Not named in the best. Don't think he will get picked for this week. Who knows.

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:20 pm

I'll find out from someone I know who is involved in the Casey Scorpions tomorrow at work.

tonysoprano · Post by **tonysoprano** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:23 pm

its ridiculous and sad really - playing in the twos may cost the kid a b&f.

unless of course someone has had a look at the votes and knows he can't be pipped?

anyway - with all due respect - the sooner Sheedy f**** off the better.

pevfan · Post by **pevfan** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:26 pm

Does anyone think that this may be the thin end of the wedge for Jobe and that he may be offered up as trade bait?

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:29 pm

pevfan wrote:Does anyone think that this may be the thin end of the wedge for Jobe and that he may be offered up as trade bait?

He's more likely to end up as skipper of the club.

pevfan · Post by **pevfan** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:01 pm

You may well be right BD but I have a nagging feeling that the decisions made over coming months may be crucial in Jobe's career.

I know you have to take what Sheedy says now with a grain of salt (always have actually) but Gee his comments about Jobe were interesting the other day...re his failure to man-up when we haven't got the ball..that could well be seen by the incoming coach as an inherent/permanent weakness because of his lamentable lack of pace.

I used to think Joe Misiti was slow but, so help me, Jobe would have trouble running out of sight on a dark night. He certainly is a ball magnet, we all know that, but our failure to man up is probably our biggest weakness ATM, one that the incoming coach would address among the first things on his "To do" list I would imagine and, in that respect I can see Jobe's head being right in the frame.

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:56 pm

pevfan wrote:
I know you have to take what Sheedy says now with a grain of salt (always have actually) but Gee his comments about Jobe were interesting the other day...re his failure to man-up when we haven't got the ball..that could well be seen by the incoming coach as an inherent/permanent weakness because of his lamentable lack of pace.

I found those comments rather odd. Can Sheedy name one bloke that actually does "man up" when we haven't got the ball - apart from Alwyn Davey? Blimey, everytime there is an opposition kick in from a behind, they manage to pin point a pass to an unmarked man.......all the way up to their forward 50. Now, is it the players who can't be bothered manning up, or is it a rather insipid tactic / game plan that we have?

He is slow - no question. But his strengths in gaining the contested ball and firing out a constructive handball is outstanding. We simply have to accept his slow leg speed and build a midfield around him because he is dynamite at getting the ball. Up until last week he was 2nd on our tackle count with 62. Slattery was leading with 67. So go figure the comment that he doesn't man up....

doogle · Post by **doogle** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:31 am

isnt sam mitchell slow?

gringo · Post by **gringo** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:06 am

tonysoprano wrote:its ridiculous and sad really - playing in the twos may cost the kid a b&f.

unless of course someone has had a look at the votes and knows he can't be pipped?

anyway - with all due respect - the sooner Sheedy f**** off the better.

I'll say. Fancy beating a team that beat us at the start of the year when we were in top-notch form. How deluded Sheedy is.

swoodley · Post by **swoodley** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:16 am

I would hope that whoever the new coach is, that he would make his own decisions on personnel rather than take notice of comments that Sheeds makes in his last few weeks.

Jobe's form over the last two years says enough and as BD says, he may well end up as captain of the club in a few years time.

Windy_Hill · Post by **Windy_Hill** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:47 pm

Call me stupid, but I would have thought that slow is a critical problem because it a) stops you getting the ball and b) disposing of it effectively????

Neither is an issue for Jobe

So what is the problem?

BenDoolan · Post by **BenDoolan** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:06 pm

Windy_Hill wrote:Call me stupid, but I would have thought that slow is a critical problem because it a) stops you getting the ball and b) disposing of it effectively????

Neither is an issue for Jobe

So what is the problem?

There is obviously more to it than simply Sheedy's explanation. It doesn't make sense to just hold Jobe accountable for the lack of chase. He hasn't got the leg speed to do it anyway, and can anyone remember Greg Williams ever chasing down an opponent? I certainly can't, and Misiti too for that matter. Coming 2nd in the tackle count suggests Watson is a very good "in close" checker when he doesn't win the ball. To expect him to run the wings and drag down an opponent who will undoubtedly be quicker than him, is dreaming a little.

rockhole · Post by **rockhole** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:35 pm

I see this as as slight hiccup to his career. As long as we see him for what he is and that is an in an under player with lightning reflexes and superb handball skills and not a quick, break away player, I have no doubt he will have a long and distiguished career with the red and black.

Look at the improvement in his kicking skills this year. if he can strt to sneak a couple of goals per game, we have a good package.

gringo · Post by **gringo** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:55 pm

Filthy wrote:
tonysoprano wrote:its ridiculous and sad really - playing in the twos may cost the kid a b&f.

unless of course someone has had a look at the votes and knows he can't be pipped?

anyway - with all due respect - the sooner Sheedy f**** off the better.
Yep sad to say.

Tony you'd have some "associates" that could quicken the process wouldn't you?

I am so over 2007...just wish it would finish and a new coach with fresh ideas, a GAME PLAN, an open mind, no project players or favourites and no preconcieved ideas about guys....ah heavan.

What a short memory you have Filthy.

dom_105 · Post by **dom_105** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:58 pm

Do you think the axings of Hille, Pev and Watson could have been motivated by the fact that Bendigo had a chance of locking up a finals place (which they did)?

Post by **Jazz_84** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:37 pm

dom_105 wrote:Do you think the axings of Hille, Pev and Watson could have been motivated by the fact that Bendigo had a chance of locking up a finals place (which they did)?

is thats true then im gana spew!!!!!!

Essendon are fighting for a finals place, and they are the more important team here...

pevfan · Post by **pevfan** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:55 pm

Don't get me wrong BD (and others) I'm a Jobe fan too. I'm just playing Devil's advocate here a bit...trying to look at him from someone else's i.e. the new coach's (whoever that may be) perspective.

Personally I don't think there's a lot that this team couldn't achieve with a whole new game plan and structure. For a start, I think you would find fixing the manning-up problem will make an enormous difference IMO.
At our best this season we've proved that we can go with the best of them.

No, I'm looking forward to the new era with great relish...roll on 2008