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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:14 pm
by Jazz_84
im getting happier by the day!!!! this is fantastic, i hope results follow

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:28 pm
by dom_105
Praise the good lord above, we have seen the light.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:45 pm
by Essendon4eva
If youa re going to go witha new direction and a fresh start, you need to go all the way. I like the idea of having a new fitness guy at the helm of that department.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:59 pm
by grassy1
Unbiased Opinions of MATT BARBER(Dean Capobianco's coach)just being appointed as PERTH'S Fitness and Conditioning Coach,required.

Just finished up at Back to back Premiers SUBIACO.After a stint with the Eagles.

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:41 am
by gringo
Mark Cera's resume reads as poorly as Knights' does. He worked at St Kilda for three years who have suffered arguably the worst run of soft-tissue injuries than any other AFL club recently; the North Melbourne Giants operated in a cash-strapped competition and ended up folding; and he is coming home from China, the great mecca of competitive team sports.

Fair dinkum. I hope the clowns who are appointing these people know what's going on, because on paper it looks like they lurch from one random appointment to the next. I only hope there is method to their madness.

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:45 am
by boncer34
Hahahaha I love you Gringo. No other poster puts a smile on my face quicker.

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:56 am
by Rossoneri
gringo wrote:Mark Cera's resume reads as poorly as Knights' does. He worked at St Kilda for three years who have suffered arguably the worst run of soft-tissue injuries than any other AFL club recently; the North Melbourne Giants operated in a cash-strapped competition and ended up folding; and he is coming home from China, the great mecca of competitive team sports.

Fair dinkum. I hope the clowns who are appointing these people know what's going on, because on paper it looks like they lurch from one random appointment to the next. I only hope there is method to their madness.
When did the Giants win the title?

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:14 pm
by gringo
Hmmm. A quick piece of "googling" reveals that Mark Cera worked at the Tigers in the mid 90s, prior to heading over to St Kilda. So obviously there is a pre-existing relationship between him and Knights. What a complete farce. Why don't we get all the junk over from Richmond whilst it was wallowing as the worst club in the AFL and really make a proper fist of it?

I was under the impression that we were one of the richest AFL clubs. Accordingly, I would have thought we could have got a fitness/rehab coach in who had experience at either a European football club or a US sports team. Instead, we've got some bloke who worked at Richmond whilst it was junkety junk junk, at St Kilda whilst they had a shocking run with injuries and of late has come back from the sporting wilderness of China. Mag-F******-nificent.

You can get the guy's mb number off the internet too, if anyone wants to call him. Why internet non-invasive?

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:49 pm
by BenDoolan
gringo wrote:Hmmm. A quick piece of "googling" reveals that Mark Cera worked at the Tigers in the mid 90s, prior to heading over to St Kilda. So obviously there is a pre-existing relationship between him and Knights. What a complete farce. Why don't we get all the junk over from Richmond whilst it was wallowing as the worst club in the AFL and really make a proper fist of it?

I was under the impression that we were one of the richest AFL clubs. Accordingly, I would have thought we could have got a fitness/rehab coach in who had experience at either a European football club or a US sports team. Instead, we've got some bloke who worked at Richmond whilst it was junkety junk junk, at St Kilda whilst they had a shocking run with injuries and of late has come back from the sporting wilderness of China. Mag-F******-nificent.

You can get the guy's mb number off the internet too, if anyone wants to call him. Why internet non-invasive?
Still going on 2005 stats for Watto?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:15 am
by keri
I would be shocked to my electric pink socks if anyone can find me a post by Gringo that doesn't criticize something.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:37 am
by BenDoolan
keri wrote:I would be shocked to my electric pink socks if anyone can find me a post by Gringo that doesn't criticize something.
Nup, impossible. He's even criticised himself from time to time.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:50 pm
by Sismis
gringo wrote:Hmmm. A quick piece of "googling" reveals that Mark Cera worked at the Tigers in the mid 90s, prior to heading over to St Kilda. So obviously there is a pre-existing relationship between him and Knights. What a complete farce. Why don't we get all the junk over from Richmond whilst it was wallowing as the worst club in the AFL and really make a proper fist of it?

I was under the impression that we were one of the richest AFL clubs. Accordingly, I would have thought we could have got a fitness/rehab coach in who had experience at either a European football club or a US sports team. Instead, we've got some bloke who worked at Richmond whilst it was junkety junk junk, at St Kilda whilst they had a shocking run with injuries and of late has come back from the sporting wilderness of China. Mag-F******-nificent.

You can get the guy's mb number off the internet too, if anyone wants to call him. Why internet non-invasive?
What US sport comes remotely close to the physical conditions of AFL? As for Soccer!!!!!! are you kidding me?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:19 pm
by keri
Soccer is a completely different ball game (Literally) There's a totally different level of fitness, and an entirely different sub-set of muscle development required at elite levels of AFL. If you fail to grasp even that simple premise, then really, you have no hope of ever understanding the decisions made in this game.

As for NFL, which is the most similar game in NFL, because of the different strings used, again, the fitness level and type of fitness required is completely different.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:53 pm
by gringo
keri wrote:Soccer is a completely different ball game (Literally) There's a totally different level of fitness, and an entirely different sub-set of muscle development required at elite levels of AFL. If you fail to grasp even that simple premise, then really, you have no hope of ever understanding the decisions made in this game.

As for NFL, which is the most similar game in NFL, because of the different strings used, again, the fitness level and type of fitness required is completely different.
Other AFL clubs have appointed fitness coaches from the major soccer clubs in Europe who have been exposed to all the best techniques, procedures and technical expertise the world has to offer. The fact that players use different muscle groups would take all of five minutes for an expert coach to pick up on. You guys are even more deluded than I thought if you think that these guys can't work across a range of sports successfully. If anything, it would add to their appeal.

We've gone and got ourselves a bloke who knocked around VUT (hardly one of the Australia's let alone the world's elite education facilities) spent some time at Richmond whilst the club was about the worst in the country and then went to St Kilda where he got the boot. Brilliant. I'm so thrilled.

But please stick your head in the sand like most supporters on this site if it makes you happy.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:04 pm
by F111
BenDoolan wrote:
keri wrote:I would be shocked to my electric pink socks if anyone can find me a post by Gringo that doesn't criticize something.
Nup, impossible. He's even criticised himself from time to time.
Is that some sort of weird masturbation? :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:05 pm
by Rossoneri
gringo wrote:
keri wrote:Soccer is a completely different ball game (Literally) There's a totally different level of fitness, and an entirely different sub-set of muscle development required at elite levels of AFL. If you fail to grasp even that simple premise, then really, you have no hope of ever understanding the decisions made in this game.

As for NFL, which is the most similar game in NFL, because of the different strings used, again, the fitness level and type of fitness required is completely different.
Other AFL clubs have appointed fitness coaches from the major soccer clubs in Europe
Such as?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:22 pm
by keri
gringo wrote:
keri wrote:Soccer is a completely different ball game (Literally) There's a totally different level of fitness, and an entirely different sub-set of muscle development required at elite levels of AFL. If you fail to grasp even that simple premise, then really, you have no hope of ever understanding the decisions made in this game.

As for NFL, which is the most similar game in NFL, because of the different strings used, again, the fitness level and type of fitness required is completely different.
Other AFL clubs have appointed fitness coaches from the major soccer clubs in Europe who have been exposed to all the best techniques, procedures and technical expertise the world has to offer. The fact that players use different muscle groups would take all of five minutes for an expert coach to pick up on. You guys are even more deluded than I thought if you think that these guys can't work across a range of sports successfully. If anything, it would add to their appeal.

We've gone and got ourselves a bloke who knocked around VUT (hardly one of the Australia's let alone the world's elite education facilities) spent some time at Richmond whilst the club was about the worst in the country and then went to St Kilda where he got the boot. Brilliant. I'm so thrilled.

But please stick your head in the sand like most supporters on this site if it makes you happy.
Oh, well if everyone else is doing it, we should be as well! Look, Gringo, there's a group of people jumping off that cliff! Off you go. By that logic, you simpleton, we should also be getting a drugie as a former captain, a criminal as a chief exec, a fat bastard with a bung knee as full forward and encourage all our players to sleep with their team-mates wives!

You know why Essendon is better than the other clubs, Gringo? BECAUSE WE DON'T JUST FOLLOW THE PACK!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:47 pm
by gringo
keri wrote:
gringo wrote:
keri wrote:Soccer is a completely different ball game (Literally) There's a totally different level of fitness, and an entirely different sub-set of muscle development required at elite levels of AFL. If you fail to grasp even that simple premise, then really, you have no hope of ever understanding the decisions made in this game.

As for NFL, which is the most similar game in NFL, because of the different strings used, again, the fitness level and type of fitness required is completely different.
Other AFL clubs have appointed fitness coaches from the major soccer clubs in Europe who have been exposed to all the best techniques, procedures and technical expertise the world has to offer. The fact that players use different muscle groups would take all of five minutes for an expert coach to pick up on. You guys are even more deluded than I thought if you think that these guys can't work across a range of sports successfully. If anything, it would add to their appeal.

We've gone and got ourselves a bloke who knocked around VUT (hardly one of the Australia's let alone the world's elite education facilities) spent some time at Richmond whilst the club was about the worst in the country and then went to St Kilda where he got the boot. Brilliant. I'm so thrilled.

But please stick your head in the sand like most supporters on this site if it makes you happy.
Oh, well if everyone else is doing it, we should be as well! Look, Gringo, there's a group of people jumping off that cliff! Off you go. By that logic, you simpleton, we should also be getting a drugie as a former captain, a criminal as a chief exec, a fat bastard with a bung knee as full forward and encourage all our players to sleep with their team-mates wives!

You know why Essendon is better than the other clubs, Gringo? BECAUSE WE DON'T JUST FOLLOW THE PACK!
Yes, my logic would encourage all of those things. Hmmmm. Were you dropped on your head as a small child Keri? Did your parents hold your head under water for extended periods? I'm just trying to work out how you can draw a link between me wanting to appoint a fitness/rehab coach who has worked at the best sporting clubs on the planet, and your conclusion that this proposition means that I wish to appoint "a fat bastard with a bung knee as full forward". I'm trying desperately hard to join the dots, but for the life of me I can't.

Look, on paper this looks like a dud appointment. Only time will tell whether or not the correct decision was made.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:48 pm
by andrewb
Fair dinkum. I hope the clowns who are appointing these people know what's going on, because on paper it looks like they lurch from one random appointment to the next. I only hope there is method to their madness.
Looks like I agree with Gringo for a change.

Look on the bright side - Cera would have had heaps of practise dealing with soft tissue rehab at St Kilda and if history is anything to go by he should get heaps more working with Johnny Quinn.

Why aren't we poaching assistants from the better performing clubs of the last few years? I want THE BEST in the business, not Knights' mates.[/quote]

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:18 pm
by F111
One view may be that Knight's is collecting a "team" of support staff that he is confident will provide him with the support he wants and therefore enable confidence in "moving forward".

The ultimate confidence will come from results. Knights has looked good so far, his rhetoric has been firm, his actions have supported his rhetoric. Now he needs the results to support the actions.

That's the hard part.