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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:03 am
by sash
sounds good! any one know when their gonna announce the leadership group for next season?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:30 am
by BenDoolan
Gee, some proper planning for once (it's been talked about since his appointment). Finally our coaching staff finally accepting our obvious deficiencies and then putting programs in place to rectify them. It's also good to know that our boys are working hard earning the money they do. Pressure for spots on the team can only be an overall good thing for our club. Logically all this time and effort will result in better performances next year. But we shall wait and see by how much.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:48 am
by BenDoolan
Filthy wrote:
BenDoolan wrote:Gee, some proper planning for once (it's been talked about since his appointment). Finally our coaching staff finally accepting our obvious deficiencies and then putting programs in place to rectify them. It's also good to know that our boys are working hard earning the money they do. Pressure for spots on the team can only be an overall good thing for our club. Logically all this time and effort will result in better performances next year. But we shall wait and see by how much.
Ben, by and large, we are going to have such a young list for a long time, you would realistically expect results from these new training, strengthening, conditioning and skills activities, 3-4 years hence.

However, with the Essendon culture and this group of young exciting kids surrounded by a core group of hardened veterans, well anything is possible....injuries permitting. Look at 93. :wink:
It's a wait and see game now. You can have all these programs and plans, but the key is how the group deliver on match day. The other key is - and Knights has so far done extremely well in the pre-season stuff, is how he orchestrates the game plan during the season. That was another area in which we have been deficient over a number of years.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:48 am
by gringo
Filthy wrote:
BenDoolan wrote:Gee, some proper planning for once (it's been talked about since his appointment). Finally our coaching staff finally accepting our obvious deficiencies and then putting programs in place to rectify them. It's also good to know that our boys are working hard earning the money they do. Pressure for spots on the team can only be an overall good thing for our club. Logically all this time and effort will result in better performances next year. But we shall wait and see by how much.
Ben, by and large, we are going to have such a young list for a long time, you would realistically expect results from these new training, strengthening, conditioning and skills activities, 3-4 years hence.

However, with the Essendon culture and this group of young exciting kids surrounded by a core group of hardened veterans, well anything is possible....injuries permitting. Look at 93. :wink:
I had a suspicion you were back smoking your tyre Filthy! Clearly you have returned to the land where fairies fly freely and pixies happily roam.

Firstly, who is this "core group of hardened veterans" you speak of? It appears we have Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher and Michael, and after that nothing. Four out of a team of 22 is not what I'd describe as a "core group."

We definitely had a core group of established players in 93 though, with O'Donnell, Harvey, Salmon, Thompson, Wallis, Long, Denham, Bewick etc. Sadly, we are well short of that mark at the moment.

We are favourites for the wooden spoon folks. Let's not get caught up in the preseason hype that inevitably surrounds clubs that had a poor year.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:03 am
by Sismis
gringo wrote:
Filthy wrote:
BenDoolan wrote:Gee, some proper planning for once (it's been talked about since his appointment). Finally our coaching staff finally accepting our obvious deficiencies and then putting programs in place to rectify them. It's also good to know that our boys are working hard earning the money they do. Pressure for spots on the team can only be an overall good thing for our club. Logically all this time and effort will result in better performances next year. But we shall wait and see by how much.
Ben, by and large, we are going to have such a young list for a long time, you would realistically expect results from these new training, strengthening, conditioning and skills activities, 3-4 years hence.

However, with the Essendon culture and this group of young exciting kids surrounded by a core group of hardened veterans, well anything is possible....injuries permitting. Look at 93. :wink:
I had a suspicion you were back smoking your tyre Filthy! Clearly you have returned to the land where fairies fly freely and pixies happily roam.

Firstly, who is this "core group of hardened veterans" you speak of? It appears we have Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher and Michael, and after that nothing. Four out of a team of 22 is not what I'd describe as a "core group."

We definitely had a core group of established players in 93 though, with O'Donnell, Harvey, Salmon, Thompson, Wallis, Long, Denham, Bewick etc. Sadly, we are well short of that mark at the moment.

We are favourites for the wooden spoon folks. Let's not get caught up in the preseason hype that inevitably surrounds clubs that had a poor year.
You are full of shit. We are not favorites for the spoon. Melbourne and Richmond are at $4 we are at $5. get you facts straight! Also worth noting the Roos were spoon favorites last year.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:14 am
by gringo
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/sports/eve ... tID/756330

We are equal favourites for wooden spoon on sportsbet.com tiger.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:16 am
by tonysoprano
All sounds very promising - but lets not forget every club is training aswlell - they are not just sitting around looking at the Bombers and saying "gee look at how hard they're training!"

We need to improve and quite a bit - we are coming from a fair way back.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:21 am
by Sismis
gringo wrote:https://www.sportsbet.com.au/sports/eve ... tID/756330

We are equal favourites for wooden spoon on sportsbet.com tiger.
I went off the stats in the Herald/sun, the paragon of accuracy, therefore I win.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:22 am
by keri
Then why do people respond to you, Filth? :)

Re: Bombers at it...It being skills

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:36 am
by Crazyman
Filthy wrote:Lloyd spent more time playing up the ground last year, even playing in the midfield at times. Knights has already indicated he thinks Lloyd is best in attack and the captain yesterday agreed.

"I feel I play better footy (closer to goal)," Lloyd said, "but I understand that you can't be one-dimensional as a side. It will probably be 80-20 over the course of the year.
About f****** time too...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:50 pm
by keri
Filthy wrote:
Filthy wrote:
keri wrote:Then why do people respond to you, Filth? :)
Charm, good looks, cultured, well read, wealth, bon vivant, sex appeal, extensive wine collection, lover of the Arts, la dolce' vite and the EFC.....need I go on?
Oh and modesty. :roll:
So you're off the pills that stop the delusions of grandeur again?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:57 pm
by keri
Oh, that's right. I needed them for my dog. She thinks she's the Prime Minister.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:30 pm
by keri
A dog? She's my bitch!

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:02 pm
by uptick
keri wrote:A dog? She's my bitch!
that loong nose does for you ?? :shock:

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:20 pm
by canberrabomber

I had a suspicion you were back smoking your tyre Filthy! Clearly you have returned to the land where fairies fly freely and pixies happily roam.

Firstly, who is this "core group of hardened veterans" you speak of? It appears we have Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher and Michael, and after that nothing. Four out of a team of 22 is not what I'd describe as a "core group."

We definitely had a core group of established players in 93 though, with O'Donnell, Harvey, Salmon, Thompson, Wallis, Long, Denham, Bewick etc. Sadly, we are well short of that mark at the moment.

We are favourites for the wooden spoon folks. Let's not get caught up in the preseason hype that inevitably surrounds clubs that had a poor year.
Your cynicism regarding pre-season comments from players and coaches is justified, but I don't think you should condemn our prospects just at the moment.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:56 am
by DC
We still have a very potent forward line and a good defence...at least IMO we do.

F Lovett Lloyd Davey
HF McPhee Lucas Gumbleton


HB Nash Fletcher ??NLM??
FB Ryder MM Slattery

The midfield will again pose the biggest problem for the EFC this season.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:09 pm
by dom_105
There's a good enough structure there that will keep us off the bottom, but that's probably going to be it.

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:14 am
by 2QIK4U
Gee, no pressure on Stanton getting the number five.

I remember reading a story about Hirdy getting abused by a granny when he was given TD's jumper when he first joined the club.

Wonder if anyone else is going to bag Stanton on getting it and Gringo does not count.

Good luck mate - take the next step.