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Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:36 pm
by robrulz5
Should have been gone years ago as he is failing at his job, if a coach wasn't winning games he would be sacked. Quinn's job is to keep the players on the field so that the coach has them at their disposal.

I think Lovett-Murray''s injury was a reccuring injury so it may have just been a flare up that needed a week off, hopefully it is nothing chronic.

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:44 pm
by Rossoneri
sacked the coach after three poor years, yet keep the fitness staff after 6 shithouse years. At least the coach gave us 20 good years.

Wonder what Quinns excuse will be this time? He is still growing?

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:53 pm
by bpdons
I don't agree with sacking Quinn based on his ability to look outside the square with Hirdy and get him back up after his foot stress fractures. Something different must be done though i agree with that. I don't know what, me no professional.
What i really find disturbing is it's not even cold yet, we've had nice dry weather for most of the pre-season and recently.
I always thought most soft tissue injuries were due to over-exerting yourself when not completely warmed up properly. Or not cooling-down properly.
Again, me not professional. I think it is time the club really paid some decent cash and commission a thorough analysis of soft-tissue injuries in our sporting conditions.

What about carbon emissions? How are we going with that?

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:06 pm
by BenDoolan
Because he's the Mighty Quinn!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX-5FByUZCo

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:14 pm
by tonysoprano
In the list I saw today we have 5 hamstring injuries the rest of the comp has 2 (notwithstanding that I am unsure about all those declared "available" or "test").

This is completely unacceptable - its round f****** 4 for f**** sake.

Quinn must go.

Also, Johns must play.

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:33 pm
by danstar84
Something has to be done. It is beyond a joke, has been for some time. We some some great talent coming through, most of whom never get out on the park because of continual soft tissue injuries. God knows we can't afford to have quality senior players like Lloyd missing!

Can't blame the dome, as the other teams who play there don't have anywhere near the number of injuries we do.

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:56 pm
by dheal
Last season St.Kilda had similar problems with soft tissue injuries & they SACKED the fitness staff, now they seem to be travelling ok. Are our injuries just bad luck or bad management. We have too many hammys etc to be bad luck. Also I believe we knowingly picked Johns (hip), Dempsey & Gumby (dodgy hammys) in the draft hoping we could treat them & get them on the ground. so far it has'nt worked. BTW what does Johns have to do to get a match & what has Slattery done to get back in the side. If we lose a ruckman early we are up shit creek. Please explain to the supporters the thinking behind team selections.

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:00 pm
by Rossoneri
dheal wrote:Last season St.Kilda had similar problems with soft tissue injuries & they SACKED the fitness staff, now they seem to be travelling ok. Are our injuries just bad luck or bad management. We have too many hammys etc to be bad luck. Also I believe we knowingly picked Johns (hip), Dempsey & Gumby (dodgy hammys) in the draft hoping we could treat them & get them on the ground. so far it has'nt worked. BTW what does Johns have to do to get a match & what has Slattery done to get back in the side. If we lose a ruckman early we are up shit creek. Please explain to the supporters the thinking behind team selections.
Why?
If we win, will you explain why you would have done things differntly?

Johns isn't playing because a) he is shit and b) he is being groomed as a defender and as such, has been playing down back for Bendigo.

Most teams are up shit creek if they lose a ruckman early. How many teams play with 3 ruckman these days?

As for the selections and dodgey hamstrings of recruits, I havent heard that Gumbleton had dodgey hammy's. And Johns was a rookie selection, wasnt in the actual draft (I think)

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:13 pm
by Mick
dheal wrote:BTW what does Johns have to do to get a match & what has Slattery done to get back in the side. If we lose a ruckman early we are up shit creek. Please explain to the supporters the thinking behind team selections.
Johns has to start playing football that warrants selection. He is struggling at VFL level. He is a dud and should be delisted at the end of the current contract. I know some players that are as tall and fast as Johns, but like him, they are not good enough.

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:14 pm
by tom9779
The problem is the TELSTRA DOME.

ok maybe not with the lloyd case(but maybe it is).

but sustained play on a bad surface.....

thats why the saints have had problems as well.....TELSTRA DOME.

put us back the G and we would be fine.....do you see collingwood/hawthorn struggling with injuries?

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:20 pm
by Rossoneri
tom9779 wrote:The problem is the TELSTRA DOME.

ok maybe not with the lloyd case(but maybe it is).

but sustained play on a bad surface.....

thats why the saints have had problems as well.....TELSTRA DOME.

put us back the G and we would be fine.....do you see collingwood/hawthorn struggling with injuries?
Do you see Bulldogs and Kangaroos struggling with injuries?

Saints are going ok this year, and guess what? They sacked their fitness guru last year (or year before)

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:21 pm
by billyduckworth
Bring back Peter Power. :twisted:

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:45 pm
by dodgey
tom9779 wrote:The problem is the TELSTRA DOME.

ok maybe not with the lloyd case(but maybe it is).

but sustained play on a bad surface.....

thats why the saints have had problems as well.....TELSTRA DOME.

put us back the G and we would be fine.....do you see collingwood/hawthorn struggling with injuries?


and yet Jetta pulls his hamstring during a game at the "G"...and Lloyd does his calf on or after playing at the "G"


get your facts straight before sprouting shite

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:52 am
by nomolos
dodgey wrote:
tom9779 wrote:The problem is the TELSTRA DOME.

ok maybe not with the lloyd case(but maybe it is).

but sustained play on a bad surface.....

thats why the saints have had problems as well.....TELSTRA DOME.

put us back the G and we would be fine.....do you see collingwood/hawthorn struggling with injuries?


and yet Jetta pulls his hamstring during a game at the "G"...and Lloyd does his calf on or after playing at the "G"


get your facts straight before sprouting shite

=D>
That statement is made of all sorts of winning.



But sorry filth this thread is not.

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:33 am
by Windy_Hill
bpdons wrote:I don't agree with sacking Quinn based on his ability to look outside the square with Hirdy and get him back up after his foot stress fractures.
Agree completely, so next time we have a problem with Hirdy's stress fractures, lets get him back on a one off consultancy agreement. Otherwise...

SACK THE USELESS NUMBNUT

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:24 am
by Makaveli
bpdons wrote:I don't agree with sacking Quinn based on his ability to look outside the square with Hirdy and get him back up after his foot stress fractures. Something different must be done though i agree with that. I don't know what, me no professional.
What i really find disturbing is it's not even cold yet, we've had nice dry weather for most of the pre-season and recently.
I always thought most soft tissue injuries were due to over-exerting yourself when not completely warmed up properly. Or not cooling-down properly.
Again, me not professional. I think it is time the club really paid some decent cash and commission a thorough analysis of soft-tissue injuries in our sporting conditions.

What about carbon emissions? How are we going with that?

Any reason for the baby talk?

Anyway, Quinn is looked upon as a leader in his profession, i think his one of those guys whos reputation proceeds his performance, he really does need to start improving!

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:57 am
by sconsey
With Lloyd out, this is a challenge that we could've done with at about the midway point of the season. But ohwell, we can't do anything about it. The guys will continue to believe in each other and the game plan that Knights is trying to implement. This game - if we win - may just fast track our season a bit.

If Quinn doesn't get the sack after this season, It'll be the 8th wonder of the world. He is there to keep the players on the park, and at this stage we currently don't have about 10 players to choose. That is pretty unacceptable! Looking through all the AFL injuries we are the only club, that has more than one Hamstring injury. Quinn keeps on stating that it's because our younger players are "growing." What bout the other 15 clubs? I'm sure they have new recruits that are growing, but they manage to keep their hammys intact. Stuart Dew, Henry Playfair, Mathew Bate, Nick Gill, Tom Collier and Malcolm Lynch are the only players in the rest of the league currently sidelined by Hamstring injuries. 6 players in total, we have 5 in total.

AFL Injury List - Round 4
8/04/2008 5:22:28 PM

Adelaide:
Chris Knights (quad) - 3 weeks
Brad Moran (fractured finger) - 3-4 weeks.
Brent Reilly (wrist) - 5 weeks
Araon Kite (knee) - 3 weeks
Greg Gallman (ribs) - test
Nick Gill (hamstring) - indefinite
Taylor Walker (calf) - test
Nathan Bassett (heavy knock) - available
Jonathon Griffin (heavy knock) - available
Luke Jericho (shoulder) - test
Jason Porplyzia (shoulder) - test
Trent Hentschel (knee) - indefinite
Rhett Biglands (knee) - season

Brisbane Lions:
Mitch Clark (quad) - test
Ashley McGrath (ankle) - test
Troy Selwood (corked quad) - test
Joel Tippett (quad) - test
Matt Austin (A/C joint) - test
Tom Collier (hamstring) - 1 week
Jason Roe (quad) - 2 weeks
Josh Drummond (quad) - 4 weeks
Matthew Moody (groin) - indefinite
Sam Sheldon (groin) - indefinite

Carlton:
Luke Blackwell (thigh) - 1 week
Sam Jacobs (ankle) - 1-2 weeks
Andrew Walker (shoulder) - indefinite
Adam Hartlett (suspension) - available

Collingwood:
Ben Reid (corked thigh) - test
John McCarthy (ankle) - test
Tyson Goldsack (concussion) - test
Jaxson Barham (shoulder) - 2-3 weeks
Simon Prestigiacomo (foot) - indefinite
Sean Rusling (shoulder) - TBC
Brad Dick (knee) - season

Essendon:
David Myers (hamstring) – available
Nathan Lovett-Murray (groin) - test
Andrew Welsh (hamstring) - test
Scott Gumbleton (hamstring) – 2 weeks
Courtenay Dempsey (hamstring) – 2 weeks
Leroy Jetta (hamstring) – 3 weeks
Tom Hislop (wrist) – 4-6 weeks
Heath Hocking (groin) – 8-10 weeks
Scott Lucas (knee) – 10 weeks

Fremantle:
Paul Hasleby (knee) - season
Luke Webster (knee) - indefinite
Dean Solomon (suspension) - available

Geelong:
Andrew Mackie (quad) - 1 week
Brad Ottens (foot) - 1-2 weeks
Matthew Egan (foot) - long term
Nathan Djerrkura (quad) - 2-3 weeks
Tom Lonergan (finger) - test
Ryan Gamble (hip) - test
Simon Hogan (ankle) - test

Hawthorn:
Jordan Lewis (suspension) - 1 week
Max Bailey (knee) - 4-5 weeks
Tim Boyle (corked hip) - test
Trent Croad (wrist) - 3-4 weeks
Stuart Dew (hamstring) - 3 weeks
Tom Murphy (concussion) - test
Beau Muston (knee) - season
Cameron Stokes (corked thigh) - test
Brendan Whitecross (corked thigh) - test
Shane Crawford (suspension) - available

Melbourne:
Paul Johnson (hand) - 4 weeks
Matthew Bate (hamstring) - test
Ben Holland (thigh) - test
Ricky Petterd (groin) - 3-4 weeks
Jace Bode (groin) - test
Michael Newton (knee) - test
Jack Grimes (back) - long-term injury list

North Melbourne:
Nathan Grima (knee) - season
Robbie Tarrant (shoulder) - TBC
David Hale (quad) - 2 weeks

Port Adelaide:
Hugh Minson (knee) - ongoing assessment
Michael Wilson (Achilles) – ongoing assessment

Richmond:
Trent Cotchin (Achilles) - available
Mark Coughlin (knee) - available
Angus Graham (hip) - test
Andrew Raines (knee) - 2 weeks
Danny Meyer (hip) - TBA
Kayne Pettifer (suspension) - 1 week
Cameron Howat (suspension) - 1 week

St Kilda:
Sean Dempster (cartilage arthroscopy) - next few weeks
Michael Gardiner (calf) - test
James Gwilt (groin) - next few weeks
Steven Baker (suspension) - 3 weeks

Sydney:
Tim Schmidt (knee) - 1 week
Peter Everitt (knee) - 2 weeks
Nic Fosdike (knee) - 3 weeks
Henry Playfair (hamstring) - 3 weeks
Brett Meredith (shoulder) - 8 weeks
Nick Malceski (knee) - Indefinite
Kristin Thornton (knee) - Season

West Coast:
Mitch Brown (knee) - season
Mark LeCras (groin) - 2-3 weeks
Sam Butler (groin) - 2-3 weeks
Dean Cox (foot) - test
Jaymie Graham (knee) - test
Matt Priddis (knee) - 3 weeks

Western Bulldogs:
Nathan Eagleton (ankle) - test
Scott West (knee) - 1-2 weeks
Shaun Higgins (ankle) - 12-14 weeks
Tom Williams (thigh) - 2 weeks
Farren Ray (foot) - 2 weeks
Andrejs Everitt (knee) - 3 weeks
Malcolm Lynch (hamstring) - 1 week

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:01 pm
by bpdons
Add Lonegan and McVeigh to the list.

I think the Benny Hill music has to start playing.

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:38 pm
by ealesy
DIE YOU f****** BASTARD QUINN!!!

IF HE STILL HAS A JOB ON MONDAY AFTERNOON I'LL f****** SPEW!!

Re: Why does Hamquinn still have a gig?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:30 pm
by Rossoneri
Should hand his pay cheque back to the club, then his resignation.