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Who is our best?

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:25 pm
by merc_2
With Lloyd so badly out of form the other night and with Hird now retired, it got me thinking who is our best player.
This is my top 3.
Would be interested in other opinions.
1 Mark McVeigh
2 David Hille
3 Patrick Ryder

With Dustin Fletcher and Brent Stanton right up there.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:40 pm
by merc_2
Our one very important omission from my top 3....a case of out of sight out of mind....lol

1 Scott Lucas
2 Mark McVeigh
3 David Hille

Honourable mentions to P Ryder, D Fletcher and B Stanton.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:32 pm
by robrulz5
1. Fletcher- Has been our most important player for years.
2. Lucas
3. McVeigh

In 2-3 years time.

1. Ryder
2. Houli
3. Could come from Stanton, Pears, Daniher and a few others.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:56 pm
by bomberdonnie
Stanton has done very little that could be called honourable this year.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:06 pm
by BenDoolan
Poor ol' Davey. Does a hell of a lot of hard work and doesn't get the recognition. The best chaser at the club. A ferocious tackler, and a determined 2nd, 3rd and even a 4th effort performer. The king of 1 percenters is also quite skilful and kicks inspirational goals. Brings others into the game with his magnificent defensive pressure.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:53 pm
by paddyl90
Wow. How much expectation is there on Stanton, is it the jumper or what? I've been to many games this year and in every he has played very well, not awesome, but he has kicked crucial goals and won some ball for us a lot in those games. In relaltion to your question:

1.Mark McVeigh
2. David Hille is a star
3. Patrick Ryder
4. Bachar Houli (cant leave him out)

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:59 pm
by merc_2
Alwyn is right up there, but not quite in our top 3.
Stanton is one of the only decent midfielders we have, he has been starring this year, but is always amongst our best.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:46 pm
by KaaN10
1. McVeigh
2. Lucas
3. Lloyd(unstoppable when in form)
4. Hille
5. HOULI DOULI

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:58 am
by jimmyc1985
robrulz5 wrote:1. Fletcher- Has been our most important player for years.
There it is.

I have absolutely no idea how anyone could not even have him in the top 3. Must've been watching a different Essendon Bombers side to me for the last decade or so.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:27 am
by Gyoza
jimmyc1985 wrote:
robrulz5 wrote:1. Fletcher- Has been our most important player for years.
There it is.

I have absolutely no idea how anyone could not even have him in the top 3. Must've been watching a different Essendon Bombers side to me for the last decade or so.
Definitely our best player now. Previously there could have been some debate....with Hirdy running around being Hirdy, and Lloyd at full flight....but there's no question now.

At the moment I'll go with:
1) Fletcher
2) Lucas
3) Lloyd
4) McVeigh
5) Ryder
6) Davey

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:07 am
by robrulz5
BomberinJapan wrote:
jimmyc1985 wrote:
robrulz5 wrote:1. Fletcher- Has been our most important player for years.
There it is.

I have absolutely no idea how anyone could not even have him in the top 3. Must've been watching a different Essendon Bombers side to me for the last decade or so.
Definitely our best player now. Previously there could have been some debate....with Hirdy running around being Hirdy, and Lloyd at full flight....but there's no question now.

At the moment I'll go with:
1) Fletcher
2) Lucas
3) Lloyd
4) McVeigh
5) Ryder
6) Davey
With Lloyd at full flight Fletcher won a best & fairest.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:48 am
by swoodley
I haven't got the stats available but I'm pretty sure that if I did, it would show that when Fletch misses, our winning percentage is awful. We have always been able to cover (to a certain extent) when Lloyd, Lucas (and even Hirdy) went down but Fletch was and is another matter.

He's our most important player imo.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:28 am
by BenDoolan
swoodley wrote:I haven't got the stats available but I'm pretty sure that if I did, it would show that when Fletch misses, our winning percentage is awful. We have always been able to cover (to a certain extent) when Lloyd, Lucas (and even Hirdy) went down but Fletch was and is another matter.

He's our most important player imo.
Indeed. Very unluck not to win his 2nd B&F last year.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:45 am
by Makaveli
Fair enough ive only seen 2 games this year, but for people to have Houli as our top 3 players at the whole club after one or two good matches is a good laugh.

Our top 3 are still:
Fletcher
Lucas
Lloyd

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:10 pm
by nathanskinner
bomberdonnie wrote:Stanton has done very little that could be called honourable this year.
His been honourable the last two weeks. 20+ touches, and 2 or more goals. Thats what you want from an ideal attacking midfielder

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:46 pm
by tom9779
remember when McPhee had such an awesome season?

(what was it a year after getting him from fremantle?.....)

I wonder what ever happened since.

continual let down ever since those lofty heights.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:55 pm
by BenDoolan
tom9779 wrote:remember when McPhee had such an awesome season?

(what was it a year after getting him from fremantle?.....)

I wonder what ever happened since.

continual let down ever since those lofty heights.
OP, inconsistency, poor form and high expectation to fullfil KP roles when our big 'uns have been out injured or that period of time. Personally, I think he's played very well this year with the occasional clanger for which he gets crucified.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:59 pm
by swoodley
BenDoolan wrote:
tom9779 wrote:remember when McPhee had such an awesome season?

(what was it a year after getting him from fremantle?.....)

I wonder what ever happened since.

continual let down ever since those lofty heights.
OP, inconsistency, poor form and high expectation to fullfil KP roles when our big 'uns have been out injured or that period of time. Personally, I think he's played very well this year with the occasional clanger for which he gets crucified.
Agree with you on this one BD...I've struggled to understand the level of criticism he has received this year.

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:09 pm
by bomberdonnie
nathanskinner wrote:
bomberdonnie wrote:Stanton has done very little that could be called honourable this year.
His been honourable the last two weeks. 20+ touches, and 2 or more goals. Thats what you want from an ideal attacking midfielder
Yeah he has played OK in the last couple of weeks but I am sick of him being soft.... Anyone who wears the number 5 is not allowed to be soft

Re: Who is our best?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:34 pm
by tonysoprano
when fit...

3. Scotty
2. Fletch
1. Spike

are irrefutably our 3 best and most important players.

The only young bloke I think who is approaching these guys is Paddy - composed, quick, skilled, determined - playing beyond his years.

From some of the others mentioned:

Lloyd has been, and may return to star-status - but I fear he is on the slide.
Houli has been good the last couple - but went missing the couple before that.
Similarly, Stants has had 2 ok games - but 3 pretty ordinary ones.
McPhee has been serviceable this year - and the criticism has been a bit harsh (fully justified in last two seasons though).
Davey is a role model for how we should attack the ball and the man around the ground.
Hille - very good at his best - but has a lot of "do nothing" quarters.
Lovett is important - when switched on - he can burn.