Hille...

[Bomber_Fan]

should tear Cloke and Kreuzer new arseholes. Use your extra bulk and make sure you hurt those two pathetic excuses for ruckmen. I would be happy for you to try and intimidate them with a bit of extra aggression even if it means giving a couple of cheap free kicks away. Perhaps a knee in the ribs wouldn't go astray on either of these two twats. I want them to be shitting their dacks when they go up for ruck contests against you. Let them be watching you and not the ball at ruck contests. Oh yeah one more thing! PLEASE make sure you tap it to our players and not Carlton's.

[hop]

BOG - Again today! Take a bow big-fella.

Won the ball with first, second and third efforts. Made Cloke and Kreuzer look like the amateurs that they are.

Has the Crighton in the bag - wonder what the odds are for Charlie?

[F111]

BOG - Again today! .............
Has the Crighton in the bag - wonder what the odds are for Charlie?

The odds would be of interest, but surely Ablett and Scott Thompson will be way up there...who else is high in the betting?

[jimmyc1985]

The odds would be of interest, but surely Ablett and Scott Thompson will be way up there...who else is high in the betting?

Cooney is up there. Although i reckon Ablett is already sitting on about 20 votes, so he's close to the unbackable favourite.

[Boyler_Room]

The odds would be of interest, but surely Ablett and Scott Thompson will be way up there...who else is high in the betting?

Cooney is up there. Although i reckon Ablett is already sitting on about 20 votes, so he's close to the unbackable favourite.

I heard Cooney was #2 favourite.

[Sartorius]

Is having an amazing season, and certainly should have been the ruckman for Victoria. Would be pushing AA without a doubt.

Averaging 16 touches and 21 hit outs this season, which is awesome. Was getting a lot of the ball earlier this season, and is now getting good numbers with hit outs too.

HHHH could be the midfield group that takes us to a flag.
Followers: Hille, Houli, Hocking
Centre: Hislop

[keri]

The Hengine Room, Gossy?

[Sismis]

WOW! Hard to find adjectives good enough for the way he is playing ATM. Dominating in the air, dangerous on the ground and with a tenacity and ferociousness that makes him downright terrifying.

At one stage he ran at the ball with Judd in tow and got away from him.

[Crazyman]

Whilst I agree he is playing damn well, I still don't rate his ruckwork that highly...but watching the replay tonight after recording the game, he seemed to only break even in regards to his ruckwork against that crap... he makes up for it around the ground and this is where he is so valuable...

Also, great to see our midfielders smash them cheating bastards

[jimmyc1985]

Whilst I agree he is playing damn well, I still don't rate his ruckwork that highly...but watching the replay tonight after recording the game, he seemed to only break even in regards to his ruckwork against that crap... he makes up for it around the ground and this is where he is so valuable...

Please, he murdered Carlton in the ruck. 37 hitouts on his own compared to Carlton's total of 27, at least half of which were probably against Laycock when he went into the ruck, plus Hille had a higher hitout-to-advantage ratio than either Carlton ruckman, plus i think he had 5 clearances off his own bat (from memory). Only bloke who was close to him for BOG was Monfries.

[Crazyman]

Whilst I agree he is playing damn well, I still don't rate his ruckwork that highly...but watching the replay tonight after recording the game, he seemed to only break even in regards to his ruckwork against that crap... he makes up for it around the ground and this is where he is so valuable...

Please, he murdered Carlton in the ruck. 37 hitouts on his own compared to Carlton's total of 27, at least half of which were probably against Laycock when he went into the ruck, plus Hille had a higher hitout-to-advantage ratio than either Carlton ruckman, plus i think he had 5 clearances off his own bat (from memory). Only bloke who was close to him for BOG was Monfries.

Well, from my perspective watching the game, he didn't appear that dominant...

[BenDoolan]

Whilst I agree he is playing damn well, I still don't rate his ruckwork that highly...but watching the replay tonight after recording the game, he seemed to only break even in regards to his ruckwork against that crap... he makes up for it around the ground and this is where he is so valuable...

Please, he murdered Carlton in the ruck. 37 hitouts on his own compared to Carlton's total of 27, at least half of which were probably against Laycock when he went into the ruck, plus Hille had a higher hitout-to-advantage ratio than either Carlton ruckman, plus i think he had 5 clearances off his own bat (from memory). Only bloke who was close to him for BOG was Monfries.

Well, from my perspective watching the game, he didn't appear that dominant...

So, from your perspective, you saw the Carlton ruck division matching it with the hit outs and clearances?

[jimmyc1985]

Whilst I agree he is playing damn well, I still don't rate his ruckwork that highly...but watching the replay tonight after recording the game, he seemed to only break even in regards to his ruckwork against that crap... he makes up for it around the ground and this is where he is so valuable...

Please, he murdered Carlton in the ruck. 37 hitouts on his own compared to Carlton's total of 27, at least half of which were probably against Laycock when he went into the ruck, plus Hille had a higher hitout-to-advantage ratio than either Carlton ruckman, plus i think he had 5 clearances off his own bat (from memory). Only bloke who was close to him for BOG was Monfries.

Well, from my perspective watching the game, he didn't appear that dominant...

Fair enough, your opinion is your opinion. But both Knights and Ratten thought he was BOG, and he got the second most BOGs here on BT in the votes thread. I re-checked the statistics and he actually had 8 clearances, 37 hitouts (the most for any ruckman over the weekend by an absolute mile - next best was Sandilands with 29) and 30% of those hitouts were to advantage, which is above average. On any measure, he dominated.

[Crazyman]

Well, from my perspective watching the game, he didn't appear that dominant...

So, from your perspective, you saw the Carlton ruck division matching it with the hit outs and clearances?[/quote]

No I would not say that they matched it with Hille, but watching the game on telly, imo he just didn't seem to dominate as clearly as the stats shows...Also, I said elsewhere that the midfield killed the Scum and perhaps I was looking more at that than I was the ruckwork

[Boyler_Room]

Hille's ruckwork on occasion was sublime. The taps he was providing to our onballers were right down their throats, generally without much pressure on them either. He should have dominated that weak excuse for a ruck division, and he did. Loving watching him play at the moment, although he reminds me of a horse at times with the way he gallops across the field. Massive legs like a race horse. Just an interesting thought I had during the game on Sunday.

[robbie67]

He has to be the AA ruckman at the moment.