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The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:21 am
by Windy_Hill
Simple Challenge
Name the.....
Best Tall Defender
Glenn Jackovich
Best Small Defender
Gavin Wanaganeen
Best Inside Midfielder
Greg Williams
Best Outside Midfielder
James Hird
Best Tall Forward
Wayne Carey
Best Small Forward
Darren Jarman
Best Ruck
Simon Madden
Best Wildcard (One other player who you couldnt place in the above categroies)
Gary Ablett Snr
of the last 20 years - 1989 - 2008 (must have played at least one season during this time)
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:11 am
by BenDoolan
James Hird an outside mid? He was the most inside midfielder we've had at the club for years...
Best Tall Defender
Dustin Fletcher
Best Small Defender
Gavin Wanaganeen
Best Inside Midfielder
Gary Ablett Jnr
Best Outside Midfielder
Michael Long
Best Tall Forward
Wayne Carey
Best Small Forward
Gary Ablett Snr - he's actually shorter than Jarman
Best Ruck
Simon Madden
Best Wildcard (One other player who you couldnt place in the above categroies)
James Hird (what was his position?)
There you go, I'm very biased!
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:31 am
by nmgilbert
Nice Idea Windy!
Windy_Hill wrote:Simple Challenge
Name the.....
Best Tall Defender
Dustin Fletcher
Best Small Defender
Wanganeen
Best Inside Midfielder
Voss
Best Outside Midfielder
Judd
Best Tall Forward
Gary Ablett Sr
Best Small Forward
Darren Jarman
Best Ruck
Simon Madden
Best Wildcard (One other player who you couldnt place in the above categroies)
James Hird - how can you limit such an awesome all-rounder to one category!
of the last 20 years - 1989 - 2008 (must have played at least one season during this time)
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:53 am
by Pazza
Best Tall Defender
Glenn Jakovich
Best Small Defender
Glenn Archer
Best Inside Midfielder
Greg Williams
Best Outside Midfielder
Peter Matera
Best Tall Forward
Wayne Carey
Best Small Forward
James Hird
Best Ruck
Dean Cox - unfortunately for Madden he only played the first few years of the list. Jim Stynes took the running throughout the 1990's and Cox has been awesome since 2000.
Best Wildcard (One other player who you couldnt place in the above categories)
Tony Lockett - only because Carey dominated CHF. Plugger was the class act at FF throughout.
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:18 am
by robbie67
Tall defender: Glenn Jackovich
Small Defender: Glen Archer
Tall Forward: Wayne Carey
Small Forward: James Hird
Ruckman: Simon Madden
Inside Midfielder: Michael Voss
Outside Midfileder: Robert Harvey
Wildcard: Jason Dunstall
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:27 am
by nmgilbert
Yeah, I forgot about Archer - you'd have to have him above Wanganeen for mine.
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:44 pm
by tom9779
Tall Defender:Jackovich,
Tall Forward: Carey,
inside mid: Voss
outside mid: Judd
Small Forward: Ablett Snr(is this allowed?),
ruck: dean cox
Wildcard: Goodes
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:03 pm
by BenDoolan
tom9779 wrote:Tall Defender:Jackovich,
Tall Forward: Carey,
inside mid: Voss
outside mid: Judd
Small Forward: Ablett Snr(is this allowed?),
ruck: dean cox
Wildcard: Goodes
Ablett Snr = 185cm
Not sure about Judd being an "outside" midfielder.
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:39 am
by tom9779
BenDoolan wrote:tom9779 wrote:Tall Defender:Jackovich,
Tall Forward: Carey,
inside mid: Voss
outside mid: Judd
Small Forward: Ablett Snr(is this allowed?),
ruck: dean cox
Wildcard: Hird
Ablett Snr = 185cm
Not sure about Judd being an "outside" midfielder.
185cm is short enough...
your right on Judd... i'd prob think about matera as pazz mentioned for picking the best pure outside mid.
makes picking an inside mid tough. I think I still lean on Voss. the fact he captained 3 flags in a row as well during the period says a lot.
revised. hirdy has to be there oh and simon black as the outside mid. geez has he got the skills.
Tall Defender:Jackovich,
Tall Forward: Carey,
inside mid: Voss
outside mid: Black
Small Forward: Ablett Snr(is this allowed?),
ruck: Cox
Wildcard: Hird
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:55 am
by swoodley
Best Tall Defender: Dustin Fletcher
Best Small Defender: Glenn Archer
Best Inside Midfielder: Michael Voss
Best Outside Midfielder: Chris Judd (almost as good as an inside mid)
Best Tall Forward: Jonathon Brown
Best Small Forward: Darren Jarman
Best Ruck: Dean Cox
Best Wildcard: James Hird
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:12 am
by nmgilbert
Yeah Judd is a bit of both. Since he's lost a yard of acceleration with his groin injury he's focussed a lot more on crumbing the packs and getting that handball off. But a couple of years ago he was scintillating with his ability to zig-zag in and out of traffic, break the lines, run 10-20m and hit an opponent right on the chest. I think the thing with Judd is that he could do it all with one possession off the tap whereas most teams need a rover to feed it out to the linkman before they can deliver to the forwards.
Gotta admit tho, I reckon Judd has lost his edge in speed and this means he can no longer take the game on like he used to. I think we've seen the best of him. Rather than being the best player in the comp i think he's dropped down and is no longer above the likes of Ablett, Bartel, Black, Cooney etc
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:22 am
by Windy_Hill
BenDoolan wrote:James Hird an outside mid? He was the most inside midfielder we've had at the club for years...
I hear what you are saying Benny but gee, how often would you see Hirdy all on his own as he used to run to position so effectively. I would say its almost impossible to fully catgorise him in any one position as he was so adept at playing all over the ground.
Either way, he definitely makes the list - no matter the position
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:50 am
by BenDoolan
Windy_Hill wrote:BenDoolan wrote:James Hird an outside mid? He was the most inside midfielder we've had at the club for years...
I hear what you are saying Benny but gee, how often would you see Hirdy all on his own as he used to run to position so effectively. I would say its almost impossible to fully catgorise him in any one position as he was so adept at playing all over the ground.
Either way, he definitely makes the list - no matter the position
Absolutely! He was everywhere I guess....inside, outside, forward, back etc. The ultimate "utility" as they used to be called.
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:53 am
by jimmyc1985
Best Tall Defender: Glen "Essington...Scott Laycock...i mean" Jakovich.
Best Small Defender: Glenn Archer.
Best Inside Midfielder: Mark Ricciuto.
Best Outside Midfielder: Nathan Buckley.
Best Tall Forward: Wayne Carey.
Best Small Forward: Gary Ablett Snr.
Best Ruck: Dean Cox.
Best Wildcard: Hird.
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:07 pm
by andrewb
Best Tall Defender
Glenn Jakovich
Best Small Defender
Gavin Wanaganeen or Glenn Archer (depending on whether you want class or grunt)
Best Inside Midfielder
Michael Voss
Best Outside Midfielder
Nathan Buckley
Best Tall Forward
Wayne Carey
Best Small Forward
Garry Ablett
Best Ruck
Shaun Rehn
Best Wildcard
James Hird
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:33 pm
by damo22
Tall defender: Dustin Fletcher
Small Defender: Damien Hardwick
Tall Forward: Matthew Lloyd
Small Forward: Mark Mercuri
Ruckman: John Barnes
Inside Midfielder: Joe Misiti
Outside Midfileder: Blake Caracella
Wildcard: James Hird
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:43 pm
by BenDoolan
damo22 wrote:Tall defender: Dustin Fletcher
Small Defender: Damien Hardwick
Tall Forward: Matthew Lloyd
Small Forward: Mark Mercuri
Ruckman: John Barnes
Inside Midfielder: Joe Misiti
Outside Midfileder: Blake Caracella
Wildcard: James Hird
I like it!
I guess a lot of us still think the 2000 team was "it".
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:21 pm
by Windy_Hill
damo22 wrote:Tall defender: Dustin Fletcher
Small Defender: Gavin Wanganeen
Tall Forward: Matthew Lloyd
Small Forward: Darren Bewick
Ruckman: Simon Madden
Inside Midfielder: Joe Misiti
Outside Midfileder: Tim Watson
Wildcard: James Hird
Re: The Best Players of the Last 20 Years
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:30 am
by dodgey
robbie67 wrote:Tall defender: Glenn Jackovich
Small Defender: Glen Archer
Tall Forward: Wayne Carey
Small Forward: James Hird
Ruckman: Simon Madden
Inside Midfielder: Michael Voss
Outside Midfileder: Robert Harvey
Wildcard: Jason Dunstall
agree with pretty much everything except I'd have Ablett Snr ahead of Dunstall