REPUBLICANS SEND AMERICA TO THE WALL,OBAMA GETS THE BLAME

[grassy1]

Makes sense doesn't it?

And even if BARACK could have done better even without the SUPER MAJORITY of 60,has that Country COMPLETELY LOST IT'S MARBLES being won over by the BULLSHIT of NEWS LIMITED(1st and FOREMOST),the MAD TEA PARTY and the REPUBLICANS?Have they COMPLETELY FORGOTTON the MESS BUSH and his CRONIES got them into in 2008?

Yep,you bet.

YOU LOT HAVE TO BE f****** KIDDING ME!YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS!

[ealesy]

Cannot is one word, not two separate words.

[bomberdonnie]

Cannot is one word, not two separate words.

Not when a yank says it

[Royza]

Ripped from a Google search:

According to the entry in the OED, cannot is the ordinary modern way of writing can not.

The historical illustrations given for the negative in the OED shows cannot, can not, and even canot, as well as the contraction can’t:
?a1400 Cursor M. (add. to Cott.) p. 959. 105 And ou at he deed fore cannot sorus be. 1451 Paston Lett. 140 I. 186 Other tydyngs as yett can I non tell you. Ibid. 172 I. 229 Whethir it be thus or non I can not say. 15.. Plumpton Corr. 72, I canot get my money. 1706 Col. Records Penn. II. 256 The House cant agree to this. 1741 RICHARDSON Pamela I. 56 If he..as you say can’t help it. 1742 YOUNG Nt. Th. I. 89 An angel’s arm can’t snatch me from the grave; Legions of angels can’t confine me there. 1827 KEBLE Chr. Y. 4 Without Thee I cannot live. Mod. Can’t you go?

The experts at AskOxford seem to prefer cannot:

Both cannot and can not are acceptable spellings, but the first is much more usual. You would use can not when the ‘not’ forms part of another construction such as ‘not only.’

The Washington State University language site says:

These two spellings [cannot/can not] are largely interchangeable, but by far the most common is “cannot” and you should probably use it except when you want to be emphatic: “No, you can not wash the dog in the Maytag.”

[grassy1]

One word,2 words,I don't care about that.

Try and be SERIOUS about the Topic for CHRIST'S Sake?FILTHY,MH?Where the BLOODY HELL are you on things like this?

[grassy1]

Before I go,any opinion here would be welcome.

[ealesy]

There has been plenty of opinions on whether CANNOT is one word or two words.

On to the actual thread topic, unfortunately it is the way of Western Democracies. The general population are distracted by too many other issues/things to pay too much attention or care about politics until policy directly affects them (ie loss of job, tax increase etc etc) and as they have never cared about politics they don't understand the process and how things the previous government or even the government before the previous government are affecting the economy and them directly now.

As such the blame the current government. It sucks but that's the way it works. Obama and co will no doubt affect some policy that will affect some people in 5-10 years time and if that is the case it isn't likely the will blame Obama, they will blame the President in power at the time.

[pevfan]

I know where you're coming from Grassy. Have just got back from touring Italy. The coach was full of loud mouthed Yanks running down Obama for all they were worth. I felt like saying "Oh you Poor Rich Americans...really doing it hard over here are you... touring the world" For the life of me I cannot understand this lurch to the extreme right, not only in US but here as well. It frightens the living daylights out of me. I didn't catch it myself, but while we were over there some British friends of ours heard one of this new Tea Party's Nutters a spokewomen raving on in a BBC interview and sounding a lot like dear old Adolph himself. Apparently one of the things she's been quoted as saying is calling for Americans to rise up and launch an armed insurrection against Washington FFS...Like I said...positively frightening.

I know the left has it's nutters too but so help me, the left's nutters are positively harmless compared to the nutters from the far right...they're the ones that almost always seem to rise to the positions of real power and wreak havoc on the world. from the Attilla's thru to the Adolph's and Benito's to the Maggies and the GWB's of this world...War mongers all and all from the far right. When is the world going to wake up to these people. How many more Farkin wars do we have to fight before we wake up.

[grassy1]

Wouldn't DARE watch it in a RABBITOH House in REDFERN,Filth..

Wouldn't bother doing it anywhere else.

Interesting read there Pevfan.And frightening one at that.

[j-mac31]

Truman, Clinton and (I think) one of the Roosevelts all lost similar numbers of seats at their first mid-term elections and still got second terms...

[grassy1]

Thanks for the link,but Thoroughly depressing Filth. :-& :-& :-& :-& :-&

[MH_Bomber]

Grassy me lad, I am totally with your sentiments on this one. The very policies these a-hole Tea Party types are espousing, are the same ones to drive the American economy deeper into recession. For some reason the yanks seem to use the mid term elections as a means of punishing the incumbent President. Less taxes and smaller government is the last things the American economy needs given the state of the private sector.

Slogans like 'we've come to take our government back from "them"' is a dangerous lurch to the right.

These Tea Party types are the current in a long line of loopy groups like; The Moral Majority, The Montana Militia and The Christian Coalition.

Also why are the yanks so appalled by the prospect of universal health coverage ? The way they are carrying on its as if Lenin and Karl Marx had just perpetrated a people's revolution.

With any luck Obama will ride out the mid-term revolt like Clinton did and sanity will return. Hopefully with guys like Jon Stewart and Leigh Colbert being very popular I havent lost faith in the the entire country but the Obama base must be remobilised.

[grassy1]

Time for another MIKE MOORE Doco methinks MH.

Better have another lookat SICKO just to see if MIKE pinpoints the HATRED there.To me,it boils down to Any Distribution of wealth Fair or otherwise is deemed by the Right as SOCIALISM.

FOR f**** SAKE,you'd think they'd have moved on from Having a GIANTSIZED WANK over the fall of the BERLIN WALL.

[azza78]

Most of the American voters walk around with their heads up their arses. How else can you explain Dubya being elected twice (well, only once really, but let's not complicate things).

I guess that's what happens when you take an apathetic electorate and a media that is allowed to be controlled by a select few.

[pevfan]

Yes Azza78...and yet what never ceases to amaze me is that the working class fall for it every time. Doesn't enyone ever ask themselves where and who this extreme right wing BS comes from...it comes from the wealthy and the powerful...The Murdoch's are but one ally of the extreme right albeit a very powerful and influential one. Doesn't anyone ever question the motives of dear old Mega rich Rupert and his ilk e.g. the Alan Jones' of this world (the man who gives megalomania a bad name... a John Laws quote...never a fan of his either but he sure hit the nail on the head with that one )

It has always amazed me (and no doubt the rest of the world) how an intelligent race of people like the Germans could ever have been sucked in by a madman like Hitler...and yet it happened and if anyone thinks that it could never happen again well all I can say is that they are living in cloud cookoo land. There are plenty of other dangerous nutters out there (and as I say, they nearly all come from the same side of the political spectrum as your Adolph's Benito's and Dubya's et al) and with the backing of their rich and powerful friends don't think for one minute that it could never happen again

[pevfan]

Yes Filth it really does addle the brain.

I guess it always comes back to the same thing...money and power. I wonder how many people stop to think about some of your modern day giant companies and how they profited from the miseries and sufferings of others...your Siemens for example, we travel on their trains every day, but how many are aware that it was the same company that was allegedly involved in the productionof the Zyclon gas used in the extermination of the Jews. Then there's your BASF's your Krupps your Mitsubishi's et al. Not to mention your Halliburtons and your Lockheeds etc. Companies that have gone on to be global giants thanks in no small part to the auspices of their extreme right wing ruling class benefactors... and of course, not to mention the blood, sweat, toil and tears (Oops, sounding a bit Churchillian there old son...sorry, I know he's not exactly one of your favourite pollies of all time ) of the cannon fodder working class...you know, the ones who help these nutters get to and stay at the top

[billyduckworth]

"The extreme right is responsible for all international wars in the last 120 year killing tens of millions of..."

Filthy, you need to study your history a little more closely and/or try not to let your biases cloud the facts.

I don't think either Korea or Vietnam were started by the extreme right. The extreme left has its share of nutters who start wars, create chaos, oppress their own people, trample on human rights etc. Stalin and Mao come to mind instantly. And then today there's Kim in North Korea. In my view, BOTH the extreme left AND the extreme right are dangerous.

[saladin]

F****** LOL !

no, actually, there's no doubt in my mind that Stalin was a gentle, benevolent man who smothered his people ( tens of millions of them) with love. and the soviet invasion and occupation of afghanistan was undoubtedly the extreme rights fault. likewise Hungary in 1956, where the evil push for self-determination was presumably at the behest of extreme right? And the republicans forced China to annexe Tibet, no doubt. presumably WW1 was also a product of extreme rightism rather than just political stupidity from pretty much everyone. and let's not mention Pol Pot, who just happened to be communist and possibly the most blood-thirsty and insane of the lot. the irony of course is that he continually butted heads with communist North Vietnam as well and so met his end.

bottom line is, you reach murderous destinations by turning left or right. the whole thing runs in a circle and they collide at the far side. if you want evidence of this, look no further than German National Socialism, which iirc had as one of it's tenets the notion of the importance of the working class - most definitely a traditional "left" attribute. Hitler and Stalin would stand shoulder to shoulder in the political circle, yet the followers of both would decry their differences - and ignore that in practice they both destroyed their disciples like few others - just because they'd arrived at the same point from "opposite" directions.

The absolute one-eyedness of people on both sides is a big part of the problem.

[MH_Bomber]

The bottom line is that totalitarianism is the always going to bring a shitload of trouble for the people its perpetrated against whether that be Nazism, Facism or Stalinism.

I think what the general angst about the tea party movement is their willingness to want to dismantle the democratic foundations under the guise of their warped interpretation of "Government by The People, Of the People.."

[saladin]

filth, i read your post allright. you and i must have different meanings for "international wars" , that's all. I'd class the failed soviet invasion of finland in the 1930's as international. likewise afghanistan. hungary. china and tibet. the mere fact that the soviet union collapsed into seperate states suggests to me that Russia didn't just declare war on her own people. it forcibly occupied multiple countries and perpetrated war upon conquered people who considered themselves ukranian, latvian, etc and certainly not russian. and waged that war for the best part of a century. i would also suggest that the Khmer's waged a brutally murderous industrial war (actually, perhaps theirs is better termed agrarian war) on ethnic grounds that was very nazi-like.

anyway, it's a moot point i guess. untold millions lie dead due to political extremism and ideology.