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Apollo 12 Movie?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:43 am
by grassy1
Just to allay any rumours,there is no Movie.Just wondering almost 50 years on,if there was one.

There was an episode dedicated to this Mission,in between the More Famous or otherwise Missions,in the TV Series From The Earth To The Moon.The episode if I remember right was called Is That All There Is?

Interesting title,but having not watched the episode,I could only take a rough stab that the title referred to the one incident(glitch?)took place on the launch,when two lightning bolts not weather related on a rainy,windy day caused 3 power cells to shut down.This had the potential to abort the mission until a man of many titles in young John Aaron,recognised the problem quickly and issued the instructions necessary to fix the situation.

It was fortunate that Alan Bean was in the right seat at the right time,also recognised the same problem from a previous simulation and understood Aaron’s instructions.The Quick thinking by both men saved the mission from an early Abort,but it was John Aaron who got the title of “Steely-Eyed Mission Man”.

Aaron also played his part in getting Apollo 13 back to Earth,with Ken Mattingly’s help I would have assumed.I stand corrected if not so,.....feel free to correct me folks.

There was one other potential problem caused by the lightning strikes on Apollo 12’s Launch,in that they could have caused damage to the Chutes on return,making a safe landing impossible.Thankfully Pete Conrad,Richard Gordon and Alan Bean did make it back safely,on November 24,1969 after a 10 day mission.

Not sure Ron Howard or anyone else had this Mission in mind,when it came to putting it on the Big Screen.Maybe Gene Kranz wasn’t as prominent here,as he was with Apollo 13.He was a NASA Legend amongst many others and outstandingly portrayed by Ed Harris.

Possibly a story that Deserves retelling all the same.

Source - Wikipedia

Note - Possibly not the best source for the story and possibly didn’t tell all the story,but a good start all the same.

Re: Apollo 12 Movie?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:33 pm
by s'dreams
Apollo 12 suffered from being the second one there. It also suffered from losing it's television camera in the first few minutes of the first moonwalk (meant to be the first color one - when Bean accidentally pointed it at the sun and burned it out), so the interest from the public quickly waned.

It also turns out that Bean accidentally left many rolls of exposed still photo film on the moon.

Hard to get excited about that in real time.

Re: Apollo 12 Movie?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:50 am
by grassy1
Maybe Alan Bean mentally relaxed too much after his early manoeuvre with John Aaron?

Did the US Media really call the Moon Missions Routine after just 2 trips?

Re: Apollo 12 Movie?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:31 am
by s'dreams
grassy1 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:50 am
Maybe Alan Bean mentally relaxed too much after his early manoeuvre with John Aaron?

Did the US Media really call the Moon Missions Routine after just 2 trips?
If you remember the scene from Apollo 13 when the astronauts do their one mid-flight live media show - Mission control refuse to let them know that none of the TV programs are carrying it.

This is why some Americans refused to believe there was actually a crisis on Apollo 13, rather they thought that NASA was cynically trying to engineer public interest.

This lack of interest as partly the reason why Apollo missions 15, 19 and 20 were cancelled (remaining missions were renumbered). This included two of the more interesting missions that required additional training:
* Copernicus near the junction of two more large craters (craters Aristarchus and Kepler), and
* Tycho which is a huge crater close to the south pole which has massive rays, a chemical composition very different to the rest of the moon and inner mountains rising 1.6KM from a flat surface. Tycho is one suspect crater for possible water ice on the moon. Harrison Schmitt (the only geologist astronaut on Apollo) was scheduled for this mission.

Two of the Saturn V rockets already built for these missions were mothballed and are on display in
Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas (Apollo 18)
Kennedy Space Center near Orlando, Florida (Apollo 19)

A third rocket is on display at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama but it was a "Dynamic Test Vehicle" with two of its real stages being used for the Skylab Module launch - AKA Skylab 1(mockups replace these sections).

They also scrubbed 2 more Skylab missions and cut the launch of the already built and ready to launch Skylab B.

You have to remember that to reach the moon before the Russians, the USA directed between 2.5% and 5% of GDP to NASA between 1965 and 1971. This was much more than they were spending on defense while fighting the Vietnam war. Nixon wanted to cancel all missions after Apollo 15 but was convinced that financially there were would be little cost savings and there would be no missions in second half of 1971 and all of 1972, and there were a lot of voters in the mid west, Texas and Florida may change their vote if they were cancelled.

Nixon redirected much of this funding to the Vietnam war and to the 1975 Apollo–Soyuz Test Project (which did not use any of the Saturn V rockets but used one of the Saturn IB rockets set aside as the "Skylab Rescue" mission rocket).

Hope this helps

Re: Apollo 12 Movie?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:26 am
by grassy1
Thanks s’dreams.

Yes I seem to remember the attitude was that a trip to the moon was about as exciting as a trip to Pittsburgh.Having said that,once everyone realised the lives of the Astronaughts was in peril,weren’t the eyes of a nation on that very mission for much more serious reasons?