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Hurley is the answer in the forward line, until Neagle and Gumbleton show something!
BD. You still dont think Slattery's garbage? What the hell does this guy have on you?BenDoolan wrote:Yeah....
It's the same old names that come up after a loss.....
McPhee.....
Slattery.....
NLM if he was playing....
now Lucas.
No mention of Hooker being smashed by Hahn?
Where was McVeigh?
How did Alwyn Davey go?
Ah well, we gotta throw the knives at someone I suppose.
Not sure mate, I still can't see what some of you are on about.boncer34 wrote:BD. You still dont think Slattery's garbage? What the hell does this guy have on you?BenDoolan wrote:Yeah....
It's the same old names that come up after a loss.....
McPhee.....
Slattery.....
NLM if he was playing....
now Lucas.
No mention of Hooker being smashed by Hahn?
Where was McVeigh?
How did Alwyn Davey go?
Ah well, we gotta throw the knives at someone I suppose.
He still gets given an "efficient" handball for giving it to a team mate under pressure. Stats hide how ordinary Slattery is.BenDoolan wrote:Not sure mate, I still can't see what some of you are on about.boncer34 wrote:BD. You still dont think Slattery's garbage? What the hell does this guy have on you?BenDoolan wrote:Yeah....
It's the same old names that come up after a loss.....
McPhee.....
Slattery.....
NLM if he was playing....
now Lucas.
No mention of Hooker being smashed by Hahn?
Where was McVeigh?
How did Alwyn Davey go?
Ah well, we gotta throw the knives at someone I suppose.
What is it, a shit kick here, a crap handball there, a free kick here? f*** mate, everyone does it.
I recognise crap performances when I see them, but are you telling me he was crap tonight? How? How many goals did his direct opponent kick?
Just looking at his disposal efficiency (trying to determine if he did perform crap statistically), he had 15 disposals at 73% efficiency and one clanger. His efficiency rate was better than McPhee, Lovett, Lloyd, Lucas, Watson, Reimers, McVeigh and Dyson. 16 other players had more clangers on the night than Slattery.
I know he looks unfashionable. An ugly duckling almost. But just because he doesn't play back pocket like Gavin ******* Wanganeen, doesn't mean he isn't effective.
Ah well, then I understand it's simply a matter of "whipping boy" syndrome. I've got my tendencies, which has been well documented in here I guessboncer34 wrote:I think we'll have to agree to disagree BD or this could go on for several pages.![]()
I know he's not Wanganeen and I dont expect him to be but I believe the guy is a spud. You know me BD, I dont usually rip the players. But Slatts? I just close my eyes every time he gets the ball.
It's not whipping boy from me BD. As Rob says stats hide how truely horrible he can be. The turnover he cause when giving it to Hooker tonight counts as an effective disposal. Would you truely count that as an effective disposal? Because I'd put it down as a clanger.BenDoolan wrote:Ah well, then I understand it's simply a matter of "whipping boy" syndrome. I've got my tendencies, which has been well documented in here I guessboncer34 wrote:I think we'll have to agree to disagree BD or this could go on for several pages.![]()
I know he's not Wanganeen and I dont expect him to be but I believe the guy is a spud. You know me BD, I dont usually rip the players. But Slatts? I just close my eyes every time he gets the ball.
That's true Rob. But that can apply to all other players on the stat sheet as well. They are only indicators - not necessarily "facts".robbie67 wrote:
He still gets given an "efficient" handball for giving it to a team mate under pressure. Stats hide how ordinary Slattery is.
I think he and McPhee are the two weak links. The rest of the defence is very good.BenDoolan wrote:That's true Rob. But that can apply to all other players on the stat sheet as well. They are only indicators - not necessarily "facts".robbie67 wrote:
He still gets given an "efficient" handball for giving it to a team mate under pressure. Stats hide how ordinary Slattery is.
I look at our defence as a unit, and I am pretty happy with their performances - Slatts included.
As I said to Rob, every player on the stat sheet is assessed in the same manner. Unless you pull apart every single player's actually disposal and the next passage of play, you are stuck with the "disposal efficiency" on the sheet. Just like the clanger count.boncer34 wrote:It's not whipping boy from me BD. As Rob says stats hide how truely horrible he can be. The turnover he cause when giving it to Hooker tonight counts as an effective disposal. Would you truely count that as an effective disposal? Because I'd put it down as a clanger.BenDoolan wrote:Ah well, then I understand it's simply a matter of "whipping boy" syndrome. I've got my tendencies, which has been well documented in here I guessboncer34 wrote:I think we'll have to agree to disagree BD or this could go on for several pages.![]()
I know he's not Wanganeen and I dont expect him to be but I believe the guy is a spud. You know me BD, I dont usually rip the players. But Slatts? I just close my eyes every time he gets the ball.
From tonight, it was Hooker though.robbie67 wrote:I think he and McPhee are the two weak links. The rest of the defence is very good.BenDoolan wrote:That's true Rob. But that can apply to all other players on the stat sheet as well. They are only indicators - not necessarily "facts".robbie67 wrote:
He still gets given an "efficient" handball for giving it to a team mate under pressure. Stats hide how ordinary Slattery is.
I look at our defence as a unit, and I am pretty happy with their performances - Slatts included.
Yeah i feel the same. Lloydy is still playing well enough to continue but i think Lucas may hang up the boots at seasons end. With guys like Neagle, Gumbleton, Daniher, Laycock and even Hurley capable of playing forward i think its time we give the younger guys (who will be part of our next premiership campaign) the chance to impress in the forward 50.j-mac31 wrote:Great last week against an old slow team, shit against a younger, quicker team.
I'd love to see him play on next year, but I think it would be best if he didn't, 1. so we can put someone young up foirward and 2. so that we don't get this every 2nd or 3rd week.
BD I think you're a bit harsh on Hooker. He was only on Hahn for 1 goal, maybe 2. Everyone seemed to have a go and get beaten by him in the second half.
Hooker's work around the ground when he was in the ruck was very good I thought, particularly at the stoppages before the ball was cleared - game high for tackles (9, next best of anyone 6) in only 49% game time.