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Sismis said:
In what way was this "disagreeing" with her?
My comment was about Llody "sitting there like a garden gnome" while Carowhine ranted about Stanton and Worsfold. probably Lloyd didn't disagree because in the current climate, it might somehow be labeled misogyny, or bullying if he stood up and gave it to her. This is only a personal observation.
In what way was this "disagreeing" with her?
My comment was about Llody "sitting there like a garden gnome" while Carowhine ranted about Stanton and Worsfold. probably Lloyd didn't disagree because in the current climate, it might somehow be labeled misogyny, or bullying if he stood up and gave it to her. This is only a personal observation.
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Perfect response to a f****** idiot
Perfect response to a f****** idiot
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What did he say,Ben?
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what was she saying about stants and worsfold?Rover99 wrote:Sismis said:
In what way was this "disagreeing" with her?
My comment was about Llody "sitting there like a garden gnome" while Carowhine ranted about Stanton and Worsfold. probably Lloyd didn't disagree because in the current climate, it might somehow be labeled misogyny, or bullying if he stood up and gave it to her. This is only a personal observation.
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He just mocked and mimicked the stupid hypocritical sack of shit =D>grassy1 wrote:What did he say,Ben?
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Lethal Leigh Matthews =D> =D> =D>
For telling the stupid hypocritical sack of shit a few home truths.
For telling the stupid hypocritical sack of shit a few home truths.
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Our newest entry into the clapping thread.
Postby Ronny Rotten » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:02 pm
Hirdy was as tough as they come on the football field, both mentally & physically. Lesser people would have given up after sustaining his terrible foot injury but he persisted & returned better than ever. Same after his serious facial injury in his collision with Spike. We all can recall his return game with his helmet against footscray. He even had the balls to "tell it how it was" about that incompetent knob, umpire mclaren. He copped his whack from the dictatorial afl & played the game of his life against west coke eagles. Remember that famous last quarter.
He'll come back again from his current situation. As members & supporters we have to stick with him & his family, we have to stick it up the afl as well.
I'm sick of these afl thugs & their media sucks, who are answerable to no one, ruining peoples lives now Hird but remember what happened to Dean Bailey - the alleged face of melbourne's "tanking". Even now it seems dictating where they can & can't work even when they have left the game. Hird & SEN & formerly Grant Thomas & SEN who rocked the afls boat on many occasions.
Our weak kneed journo's & electronic media are running scared of the afl, with retributions of the withdrawal of their accreditation a major deterrent of standing up to these thugs. These tactics are straight out of stalin & hitlers handbooks. Rule by fear & injustice.
Now that fat vlad is gone, hopefully never to be heard of again except in the obituary's, I hope now things start happening to rid the game of the likes jillian Mcl, Fritzpatrick & the other henchmen.
Lets get some respectability & integrity back into our great game.
In the meantime Hirdy (& your family) get back soon, better than ever
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Postby Ronny Rotten » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:02 pm
Hirdy was as tough as they come on the football field, both mentally & physically. Lesser people would have given up after sustaining his terrible foot injury but he persisted & returned better than ever. Same after his serious facial injury in his collision with Spike. We all can recall his return game with his helmet against footscray. He even had the balls to "tell it how it was" about that incompetent knob, umpire mclaren. He copped his whack from the dictatorial afl & played the game of his life against west coke eagles. Remember that famous last quarter.
He'll come back again from his current situation. As members & supporters we have to stick with him & his family, we have to stick it up the afl as well.
I'm sick of these afl thugs & their media sucks, who are answerable to no one, ruining peoples lives now Hird but remember what happened to Dean Bailey - the alleged face of melbourne's "tanking". Even now it seems dictating where they can & can't work even when they have left the game. Hird & SEN & formerly Grant Thomas & SEN who rocked the afls boat on many occasions.
Our weak kneed journo's & electronic media are running scared of the afl, with retributions of the withdrawal of their accreditation a major deterrent of standing up to these thugs. These tactics are straight out of stalin & hitlers handbooks. Rule by fear & injustice.
Now that fat vlad is gone, hopefully never to be heard of again except in the obituary's, I hope now things start happening to rid the game of the likes jillian Mcl, Fritzpatrick & the other henchmen.
Lets get some respectability & integrity back into our great game.
In the meantime Hirdy (& your family) get back soon, better than ever
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Also a 'worthy' entrant into the clapped club, as always Bruce Francis` summation of recent (and past) events.
Never get sick of your work Bruce.
Guys
I should like to predicate my comments by saying two things:
1. I hope the media chases down the evil harridan who pulled the pin and contributed to James Hird’s current situation. About three weeks ago at a Christmas drinks gathering at a friends, a woman (whose name I have known since the event) carried on like a hectoring fishwife and gave James both barrels over what she thought happened at Essendon. She made startling accusations, all baseless. She had no idea what she was talking about. Her comments had a devastating effect on James.
2. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull must accept some responsibility for what has happened to James. Mr Turnbull, his apathetic and incompetent Sports Minister Sussan Ley and many coalition members have been given irrefutable proof that ASADA and the AFL ran a corrupted investigation. They have also been given irrefutable evidence that the Court of Arbitration for Sport was corrupt, inept and biased. If Mr Turnbull had instigated an investigation into the whole saga, what happened last night would never have occurred. As far as I am concerned being aware of corruption and doing nothing is the same as pulling the trigger, or taking the pin out. As the Senators on the Community Affairs Committee led by Senator Duniam have proven to be completely incompetent, Mr Turnbull now has no choice but to order a Royal Commission into the corruption and/or ineptness at ASADA, the AFL, the CAS, the Commonwealth Ombudsman’s office, the Australian Sports Commission and the Victorian WorkSafe Authority.
Age journeyman Rohan Connolly was one of the first into print over James Hird being hospitalised. His comment in the Age “Is this latest episode what it will take for the fans, the trolls and yes, the media, to finally back off and give the guy some peace and some dignity?” symbolises why Hird is in the state he is and why Rohan Connolly is a joke for refusing to accept the damage that members of the media did to James by throwing their principles (my first oxymoron for the day) in the bin in order to ingratiate themselves with the AFL.
Hird doesn’t want the media to back off. Inter alia, he wants:
1. The media to reveal that the AFL was totally responsible for Stephen Dank working at Essendon and therefore must accept total responsibility for Dank. If the AFL had fulfilled its commitments to WADA (see clauses 2.6.2; 2.7 and 2.8 of the WADA Code; and its commitments to its own anti-doping code, it would have prevented Dank from working for the Gold Coast Suns, Essendon and Melbourne Football Club. Basically, the WADA and AFL codes say the moment Dank used a WADA banned substance on a member of the public, he was automatically banned from working with a WADA affiliated athlete.
2. The media to reveal that the AFL never checked once whether any player at any club ever complied with clause 7.4 of the AFL’s Anti-Doping Code. Basically, clause 7.4 states that every player has to table a document with his club doctor that lists each substance he took in the previous 12 months. Research by the ABC with every club on 1 April 2014 revealed that no club had ever complied and that the AFL had never checked with compliance.
3. The media to reveal that the AFL believed for almost two years that the Essendon players were taking banned, life threatening substances but did nothing to stop it. It was incomprehensible and callous for the AFL to have done nothing.
4. The media to reveal the truth about Hird’s responsibilities at Essendon.
5. The media to reveal where Hird fitted in the Essendon organisation structure and his job responsibilities. As it transpires, for some illogical reason, Hird and his four assistant coaches were on a different branch of the organisation structure from the football department that was run by general manager – football Paul Hamilton. Consequently, Hird had no legal right to interfere with Paul Hamilton, Dean Robinson or the doctors. Incidentally, Hamilton is employed by the AFL.
6. The media to reveal that according to clauses 21, 22, 23 and 35 of the Victorian Occupational, Health and Safety Act (2004) about 30 people had more legal responsibility than Hird – viz nine AFL commissioners including current Victorian governor M/s Linda Dessau; then CEO Andrew Demetriou; deputy CEO Gillon McLachlan; integrity manager Brett Clothier, general manager football Adrian Anderson; the human resource director; the OH&S manager; the ten Essendon board members; Paul Hamilton; Dean Robinson; the doctors; the human resource director and the OH&S manager.
7. The media to reveal that the AFL, ASADA, Essendon chairman David Evans and Essendon CEO Ian Robson agreed on 9 February 2013 that the Essendon support team would be held responsible. Within days, support team became code for James Hird.
8. The media to reveal that the AFL, ASADA, the Gillard government and Evans and Robson agreed at the 9 February 2013 to exonerate the players on spurious grounds. The agreement was in direct violation of the WADA code. According to Chip Le Grand, John Marshall QC, who had been ASADA’s senior counsel for twenty years resigned over the AFL and ASADA’s agreement to breach the WADA rules.
9. The media to reveal that David Evans told Dr Reid on 1 February 2013 that Andrew Demetriou and Gill McLachlan had told him (Evans) that the Essendon players had taken banned substances. Arguably, Demetriou and McLachlan’s comments to Evans were in breach of the Crimes Act.
10. The media to reveal why the Essendon board agreed in early 2013 to sacrifice Hird.
11. The media to reveal that when James queried why the AFL was demanding that he stand aside for 12 months AFL general counsel Andrew Dillon said: “the scandal “needs a face”. Gill McLachlan said “It is about the optics.” The AFL had no evidence that Hird had done anything wrong and it had no evidence that he had not fulfilled his job responsibilities. McLachlan and Dillon need to be pressured by the media to account for their atrocious decisions.
12. The media to reveal that ASADA changed evidence in its investigation to implicate Hird
13. The media to reveal that ASADA changed evidence; fabricated evidence; omitted evidence; testified in its own investigation; and accepted constant political interference. (See attached report)
14. The media to reveal that WADA perjured itself, and omitted exculpatory evidence during the CAS hearing.
15. The media to reveal available evidence that the Court of Arbitration for Sport panel acted corruptly and were inept and biased. (See attached report)
16. The media to reveal that ASADA CEO Ben McDevitt misled Parliament on 16 occasions during his 3 March 2016 Senate Estimates hearing appearance.
17. The media exposing Lindsay Tanner for doing nothing about his belief that the CAS decision was outrageous. Tanner has been given all the evidence of ASADA and the CAS’s corruption but has done nothing about it.
18. The media to expose Age journalist Nick McKenzie for claiming in his 11 April 2013 article that Dank admitted to using Thymosin at Essendon but in his 24 August 2013 column he quoted Dank as saying he used Thymosin Beta-4 at Essendon. Both articles were written from notes resulting from McKenzie interviewing Dank by telephone in early April 2013. It is illogical that McKenzie changed his understanding of what Dank said four months later. McKenzie was either inept and wrong on 11 April 2013 or was guilty of misconduct on 24 August 2013.
I could go on forever, but this short list should give an indication of where the missiles will be targeted until James Hird is vindicated.
Mr Turnbull now must establish a Royal Commission.
Regards
Bruce Francis
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Never get sick of your work Bruce.
Guys
I should like to predicate my comments by saying two things:
1. I hope the media chases down the evil harridan who pulled the pin and contributed to James Hird’s current situation. About three weeks ago at a Christmas drinks gathering at a friends, a woman (whose name I have known since the event) carried on like a hectoring fishwife and gave James both barrels over what she thought happened at Essendon. She made startling accusations, all baseless. She had no idea what she was talking about. Her comments had a devastating effect on James.
2. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull must accept some responsibility for what has happened to James. Mr Turnbull, his apathetic and incompetent Sports Minister Sussan Ley and many coalition members have been given irrefutable proof that ASADA and the AFL ran a corrupted investigation. They have also been given irrefutable evidence that the Court of Arbitration for Sport was corrupt, inept and biased. If Mr Turnbull had instigated an investigation into the whole saga, what happened last night would never have occurred. As far as I am concerned being aware of corruption and doing nothing is the same as pulling the trigger, or taking the pin out. As the Senators on the Community Affairs Committee led by Senator Duniam have proven to be completely incompetent, Mr Turnbull now has no choice but to order a Royal Commission into the corruption and/or ineptness at ASADA, the AFL, the CAS, the Commonwealth Ombudsman’s office, the Australian Sports Commission and the Victorian WorkSafe Authority.
Age journeyman Rohan Connolly was one of the first into print over James Hird being hospitalised. His comment in the Age “Is this latest episode what it will take for the fans, the trolls and yes, the media, to finally back off and give the guy some peace and some dignity?” symbolises why Hird is in the state he is and why Rohan Connolly is a joke for refusing to accept the damage that members of the media did to James by throwing their principles (my first oxymoron for the day) in the bin in order to ingratiate themselves with the AFL.
Hird doesn’t want the media to back off. Inter alia, he wants:
1. The media to reveal that the AFL was totally responsible for Stephen Dank working at Essendon and therefore must accept total responsibility for Dank. If the AFL had fulfilled its commitments to WADA (see clauses 2.6.2; 2.7 and 2.8 of the WADA Code; and its commitments to its own anti-doping code, it would have prevented Dank from working for the Gold Coast Suns, Essendon and Melbourne Football Club. Basically, the WADA and AFL codes say the moment Dank used a WADA banned substance on a member of the public, he was automatically banned from working with a WADA affiliated athlete.
2. The media to reveal that the AFL never checked once whether any player at any club ever complied with clause 7.4 of the AFL’s Anti-Doping Code. Basically, clause 7.4 states that every player has to table a document with his club doctor that lists each substance he took in the previous 12 months. Research by the ABC with every club on 1 April 2014 revealed that no club had ever complied and that the AFL had never checked with compliance.
3. The media to reveal that the AFL believed for almost two years that the Essendon players were taking banned, life threatening substances but did nothing to stop it. It was incomprehensible and callous for the AFL to have done nothing.
4. The media to reveal the truth about Hird’s responsibilities at Essendon.
5. The media to reveal where Hird fitted in the Essendon organisation structure and his job responsibilities. As it transpires, for some illogical reason, Hird and his four assistant coaches were on a different branch of the organisation structure from the football department that was run by general manager – football Paul Hamilton. Consequently, Hird had no legal right to interfere with Paul Hamilton, Dean Robinson or the doctors. Incidentally, Hamilton is employed by the AFL.
6. The media to reveal that according to clauses 21, 22, 23 and 35 of the Victorian Occupational, Health and Safety Act (2004) about 30 people had more legal responsibility than Hird – viz nine AFL commissioners including current Victorian governor M/s Linda Dessau; then CEO Andrew Demetriou; deputy CEO Gillon McLachlan; integrity manager Brett Clothier, general manager football Adrian Anderson; the human resource director; the OH&S manager; the ten Essendon board members; Paul Hamilton; Dean Robinson; the doctors; the human resource director and the OH&S manager.
7. The media to reveal that the AFL, ASADA, Essendon chairman David Evans and Essendon CEO Ian Robson agreed on 9 February 2013 that the Essendon support team would be held responsible. Within days, support team became code for James Hird.
8. The media to reveal that the AFL, ASADA, the Gillard government and Evans and Robson agreed at the 9 February 2013 to exonerate the players on spurious grounds. The agreement was in direct violation of the WADA code. According to Chip Le Grand, John Marshall QC, who had been ASADA’s senior counsel for twenty years resigned over the AFL and ASADA’s agreement to breach the WADA rules.
9. The media to reveal that David Evans told Dr Reid on 1 February 2013 that Andrew Demetriou and Gill McLachlan had told him (Evans) that the Essendon players had taken banned substances. Arguably, Demetriou and McLachlan’s comments to Evans were in breach of the Crimes Act.
10. The media to reveal why the Essendon board agreed in early 2013 to sacrifice Hird.
11. The media to reveal that when James queried why the AFL was demanding that he stand aside for 12 months AFL general counsel Andrew Dillon said: “the scandal “needs a face”. Gill McLachlan said “It is about the optics.” The AFL had no evidence that Hird had done anything wrong and it had no evidence that he had not fulfilled his job responsibilities. McLachlan and Dillon need to be pressured by the media to account for their atrocious decisions.
12. The media to reveal that ASADA changed evidence in its investigation to implicate Hird
13. The media to reveal that ASADA changed evidence; fabricated evidence; omitted evidence; testified in its own investigation; and accepted constant political interference. (See attached report)
14. The media to reveal that WADA perjured itself, and omitted exculpatory evidence during the CAS hearing.
15. The media to reveal available evidence that the Court of Arbitration for Sport panel acted corruptly and were inept and biased. (See attached report)
16. The media to reveal that ASADA CEO Ben McDevitt misled Parliament on 16 occasions during his 3 March 2016 Senate Estimates hearing appearance.
17. The media exposing Lindsay Tanner for doing nothing about his belief that the CAS decision was outrageous. Tanner has been given all the evidence of ASADA and the CAS’s corruption but has done nothing about it.
18. The media to expose Age journalist Nick McKenzie for claiming in his 11 April 2013 article that Dank admitted to using Thymosin at Essendon but in his 24 August 2013 column he quoted Dank as saying he used Thymosin Beta-4 at Essendon. Both articles were written from notes resulting from McKenzie interviewing Dank by telephone in early April 2013. It is illogical that McKenzie changed his understanding of what Dank said four months later. McKenzie was either inept and wrong on 11 April 2013 or was guilty of misconduct on 24 August 2013.
I could go on forever, but this short list should give an indication of where the missiles will be targeted until James Hird is vindicated.
Mr Turnbull now must establish a Royal Commission.
Regards
Bruce Francis
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Whilst I applaud most of what Bruce has to say, there is one major point I must raise...
As much as Turnbull has things to answer for, this was brought on by Gillard, carried on by Rudd and Abbott, so there are a few before Turnbull that need to be held to account for this political schmozzle...
But yes, a Royal Commission should be conducted...
As much as Turnbull has things to answer for, this was brought on by Gillard, carried on by Rudd and Abbott, so there are a few before Turnbull that need to be held to account for this political schmozzle...
But yes, a Royal Commission should be conducted...
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Exactly Crazy, I would just like for ALL complicit in the saga to be held accountable.Crazyman wrote:Whilst I applaud most of what Bruce has to say, there is one major point I must raise...
As much as Turnbull has things to answer for, this was brought on by Gillard, carried on by Rudd and Abbott, so there are a few before Turnbull that need to be held to account for this political schmozzle...
But yes, a Royal Commission should be conducted...