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Yeah,know what you’re saying mate,but I’ll setttle for some mass resignations from the AWFULL Commission,plus the Rules Comitteee and a New Commission pissing Off AWFULLx and at least half the shit new Rules,plus a new AFL Reserves Competition,plus the State Leagues revived with better funding,No Strings attached!
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Apologies for rehashing one of the most miserable time for many of us and its not over yet. I believe it cannot be over until the truth emerges.
It has destroyed lives and many people's lives will never be the same again. Because of dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
Bruce Francis is someone whom I respect enormously. He has NOT been bought off, frightened off or sold anyone down the river to better his own interests. He is one of the few in this saga. He will keep fighting until he can't because his health is not good. I hope to catch up with him sometime this year. I had planned to meet up with him last year but I had a hell of a year with back problems and bronchial infections and it didn't happen.
I still have hope that sometime in the future, someone will leave behind information to incriminate some currently in "the boys club" who are protected and untouchable.
It has destroyed lives and many people's lives will never be the same again. Because of dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
Bruce Francis is someone whom I respect enormously. He has NOT been bought off, frightened off or sold anyone down the river to better his own interests. He is one of the few in this saga. He will keep fighting until he can't because his health is not good. I hope to catch up with him sometime this year. I had planned to meet up with him last year but I had a hell of a year with back problems and bronchial infections and it didn't happen.
I still have hope that sometime in the future, someone will leave behind information to incriminate some currently in "the boys club" who are protected and untouchable.
Nothing usually happens until something happens.
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OK, apologies mate I mistakingly thought you were saying Bruce Francis had settled on the steps and I couldn`t believe it. Have to admire the man for fighting a seemingly un-winnable fight. Sort of wishing that the AFL, asada/wada and selected government officials (and all concerned with the cover ups and corruption that has taken place) would have a meeting, maybe then, some-one with an M60 machine gun could walk in and do an 'Arnie' on them. I would lose NO sleep over that, when you consider the lives and reputations that have been destroyed.mdso wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:01 am To answer your question about the AFL and Bruce settling on the steps of the Supreme Court; that was Dr. Bruce Reid. Fortunately Bruce won, because the AMA would have stopped him from practicing medicine. Never doubt the friends and connections of friends of the AFL in high places.
I think Robert Lovett Murray aka as NatRat, a former Essendon player was/is taking the AFL to court. It may have been settled by now. The AFL's usual form is to buy people off and shut them up with a "no talky agreement." Or, if that doesn't work they intimidate and threaten to block supply of work within footy and elsewhere until they cave in. That usually does work and it all fades away into oblivion.
Bruce Francis has not given up and he has paid for it all himself. He is taking a different tack with enquiries in his fight for justice for the Essendon 34. He is now going on through FOI's and Government Departments and ASADA but nothing has come of it as this stage. ASADA simply refuses to release documents and no one can make them not even the Australian Government. They truly are, a law unto themselves. The Government have not budged from their former position which is not even reading the material and saying they can't do anything without new evidence.
Yes, they are virtually untouchable. All of them the AFL, ASADA/WADA and the Government, they are more bent than a bunch of over ripe
Queensland bannanas.
ASADA by refusing to to release ANY documentation are admitting that they have something to hide. c****
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...and one day,such documentation will literally fall into the hands of someone,who wouldn’t fear the AFL,nor their tactics to conceal the truth and won’t worry about threats of being barred from AFL Matches,because they’ll have nothing to lose.
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Although I noticed a couple of people on here (talking on another topic) mocking those of us who dare to still want the truth to come out, and to see the instigators of the sordid fkng saga punished appropriately. I would like to think there are more people (not just Bomber fans) that would like to know 'exactly' how it all went down, even if just for curiousity.
I find it hard to believe that ANY Essendon fan would not like to see justice for those that were so wronged and had their lives and reputations ruined.
I believe that what happened to us (the Essendon Football Club) was easily the worst fkng thing that has EVER happened to us, or ANY football club. And you know what, if they had found ANY illegal drug/s in ANY of the players it would all be over and I would have been mightily pissed at the club for trying to cheat, BUT we would have gotten over it,....eventually.
Instead, (as far as I know) there is only one person on this planet (Bruce Francis) who seems intent on seeing the truth coming out and for the perpetrators answering for their malfeasance. They (we all know the individuals involved) tried to ruin our club and succeeded in ruining many lives and reputations all because of jealousy and because of our past successes.
So I say thanks to Bruce for his tireless and thankless work.
And to the 'mockers'....go barrack for the scum...or the filth. If you don`t think we were wrongly done by and should fight to clear the names of ALL those involved that were punished and had their lives ruined, I just don`t understand that. Not saying we should not have been fined for shitty governence because we should have, but again, IF the AFL had been dilligent in their 'duties' it never would have gotten so fkd up.
I find it hard to believe that ANY Essendon fan would not like to see justice for those that were so wronged and had their lives and reputations ruined.
I believe that what happened to us (the Essendon Football Club) was easily the worst fkng thing that has EVER happened to us, or ANY football club. And you know what, if they had found ANY illegal drug/s in ANY of the players it would all be over and I would have been mightily pissed at the club for trying to cheat, BUT we would have gotten over it,....eventually.
Instead, (as far as I know) there is only one person on this planet (Bruce Francis) who seems intent on seeing the truth coming out and for the perpetrators answering for their malfeasance. They (we all know the individuals involved) tried to ruin our club and succeeded in ruining many lives and reputations all because of jealousy and because of our past successes.
So I say thanks to Bruce for his tireless and thankless work.
And to the 'mockers'....go barrack for the scum...or the filth. If you don`t think we were wrongly done by and should fight to clear the names of ALL those involved that were punished and had their lives ruined, I just don`t understand that. Not saying we should not have been fined for shitty governence because we should have, but again, IF the AFL had been dilligent in their 'duties' it never would have gotten so fkd up.
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You can go shove your opinion on who I should follow up your ass.
This is why posters like BD etc still hold my respect and peanuts like Bruce Francis and yourself can bite me. Benny and I have a strong disagreement on this topic but that doesnt impact our relationship away from this subject. He can can accept I disagree, he may think me a f***wit for doing so, but hes not so childish to go "if you dont agree with me then clearly you dont care about this club."
The whole it's my way or no way schtick is tired and if you had half a brain you'd see the anyone who disagrees is a traitor mentality is the reason why Bruce's inane ramblings are met with scorn and disdain.
This is why posters like BD etc still hold my respect and peanuts like Bruce Francis and yourself can bite me. Benny and I have a strong disagreement on this topic but that doesnt impact our relationship away from this subject. He can can accept I disagree, he may think me a f***wit for doing so, but hes not so childish to go "if you dont agree with me then clearly you dont care about this club."
The whole it's my way or no way schtick is tired and if you had half a brain you'd see the anyone who disagrees is a traitor mentality is the reason why Bruce's inane ramblings are met with scorn and disdain.
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You see for me, I just don’t believe in conspiracies. Yes, I think the matter was handled incredibly unprofessionally but did the AFL collude with ASADA to bring down one of its biggest bread winners? Surely the AFL would have preferred the matter to be swept under the carpet? No, I think the AFL and Essendon panicked in self reporting. The problem then became optics and the rest is history. Dank was/is a dirty dog. Anyone with a shred of responsibility running a cutting edge supplements program would have more than simply covered their arses....they would have got approvals in writing in triplicate on every subtlety and nuance of the program. So again, unprofessionalism everywhere you turn.
Unfortunately the circumstantial evidence once the matter hit WADA and CSA was enough for those cronies to condemn the players. Yes, it was incredibly unjust. None of those players deserved to go through any of the bullshit, worry, heartache, humiliation etc. But the issue had taken on its own life form by then and WADA, once they have a target in their sights, will always influence the outcome in court to their favour.
So Bruce has done an incredible job in fighting the good fight. But to unravel the ball of knotted strings and flimsy conspiracies is a task even beyond his towering intellect and crusade like passion.
Life is full of injustice. Essendon’s best revenge is to win a flag within a matter of years of being subjected to that injustice and bring some happiness to the players and fans that endured the whole mess.
Unfortunately the circumstantial evidence once the matter hit WADA and CSA was enough for those cronies to condemn the players. Yes, it was incredibly unjust. None of those players deserved to go through any of the bullshit, worry, heartache, humiliation etc. But the issue had taken on its own life form by then and WADA, once they have a target in their sights, will always influence the outcome in court to their favour.
So Bruce has done an incredible job in fighting the good fight. But to unravel the ball of knotted strings and flimsy conspiracies is a task even beyond his towering intellect and crusade like passion.
Life is full of injustice. Essendon’s best revenge is to win a flag within a matter of years of being subjected to that injustice and bring some happiness to the players and fans that endured the whole mess.
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Just don’t win the Flag like Cronulla and then come apart at the seams again.
Speaking of covering one’s arse,how do you go about that and end up with an AFL Life Membership,having confessed he was lucky to keep his job?
For more on that,ask one certain current Coach about 1 certain T.Nisbett!He’s sitting pretty after a recent Flag,with the possibility of more Flag(plural)to come!That takes some doing!Or does it,.......?
Depends on where you do it I supppose.If you have a compliant Media helping you along,then I guess it’s easier than ever!That certain Coach might disagree,having blown up on them and called ‘em something Nasty,.......
Old History now,but context was warranted.
Speaking of covering one’s arse,how do you go about that and end up with an AFL Life Membership,having confessed he was lucky to keep his job?
For more on that,ask one certain current Coach about 1 certain T.Nisbett!He’s sitting pretty after a recent Flag,with the possibility of more Flag(plural)to come!That takes some doing!Or does it,.......?
Depends on where you do it I supppose.If you have a compliant Media helping you along,then I guess it’s easier than ever!That certain Coach might disagree,having blown up on them and called ‘em something Nasty,.......
Old History now,but context was warranted.
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Woosha?grassy1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:36 am Just don’t win the Flag like Cronulla and then come apart at the seams again.
Speaking of covering one’s arse,how do you go about that and end up with an AFL Life Membership,having confessed he was lucky to keep his job?
For more on that,ask one certain current Coach about 1 certain T.Nisbett!He’s sitting pretty after a recent Flag,with the possibility of more Flag(plural)to come!That takes some doing!Or does it,.......?
Depends on where you do it I supppose.If you have a compliant Media helping you along,then I guess it’s easier than ever!That certain Coach might disagree,having blown up on them and called ‘em something Nasty,.......
Old History now,but context was warranted.
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Yeah!He’s the one who can tell ya about good old Nizzy!
Still,that was then and this is now,......
Still,that was then and this is now,......
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They reckon they’ve cleared the cobwebs out of West Coast and to be fair to the current playing group,the cobwebs have generally cleared away.
Just onfield stuff to worry about really.McGovern’s well being,Gaff’s moment of madness and news from the Daily NicNat(Tge Worst Australian).
All the fun seems to happen at the Dorkers,although outsiders like me just generally laugh at them.
Just onfield stuff to worry about really.McGovern’s well being,Gaff’s moment of madness and news from the Daily NicNat(Tge Worst Australian).
All the fun seems to happen at the Dorkers,although outsiders like me just generally laugh at them.
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Hey Bruce, hope you’re still reading these forums.
Saw recent report that said you’re not travelling the best. Hope you are ok and look forward to seeing you take down those bastards
Saw recent report that said you’re not travelling the best. Hope you are ok and look forward to seeing you take down those bastards
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Hoping that Bruces` health is ok and hopefully on the improve.
Me?, I loved his work.
If you haven`t seen his latest, this should refresh your memory.
I KNOW, I KNOW, I FKNG KNOW ALREADY....It`s over, it`s gone, it`s on the ffs forget it list, BUT it still burns deep in this old mans stomach. Plus I`m fkng isolating and bored and thought I would go over some old stuff .
https://www.change.org/p/public-inquiry ... u/25366944
I`d be surprised if Bruce was still reading these forums after the shabby way he was treated by the media, the hoi polloi and even by many people on here. Maligned and treated as a loony almost, he was the only person on the planet that seemed to give a f*** at one stage. (And me )
For example it still shits me that with the PROOF they had that McDivett (Intentional mis-spelling ) was found NOT GUILTY of mis-leading the senate, WHEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID, at one stage he tells the senate that over a 100 e-mails purporting that we would source Thymosin-Beta4 for the purpose of doping the team exist (somewhere in the ether). BUT THEY DON`T and 348 DAYS LATER an ASADA LAWYER ADMITS that no such documents exist. HOW THE f*** DOES HE NOT GO FOR MIS-LEADING THEM??.
I know I`m gonna cop flack for this post (because it`s 'ancient' history) but I don`t really give a f***, blame the virus . There are/were many people involved in that conspiracy and colusion as I`m sure you might remember, feel free to add any if you want, and if you feel like visiting the past and want to re-rage, (don`t think that`s an actual word)
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I’m still waiting for Stephen Dank to tell us what Really Happened,des.
Thankfully I haven’t bothered holding my breath.
Thankfully I haven’t bothered holding my breath.
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Yeah grassy, it`s fkng disgusting how wank (ooops dank) just clamped up and refused to tell what happened, and you may not be with us if you`d held your breathe waiting
BUT as I said WHY the f*** wasn`t mcdivett charged with mis-leading the senate when he so blatantly lied??.
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Hadn’t he recently been charged in the Northern Territory? So he’s got other matters to address now, he won’t be bothered with anything AFL related.
Couple that with the current “isolation” rules, he won’t be coming out of hiding anytime soon.
Didn’t he declare he lost that spreadsheet, or that Dean Wallis had it on his compoota?
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Blowed if I know Des.Friends in high places maybe?desmondo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:37 amYeah grassy, it`s fkng disgusting how wank (ooops dank) just clamped up and refused to tell what happened, and you may not be with us if you`d held your breathe waiting
BUT as I said WHY the f*** wasn`t mcdivett charged with mis-leading the senate when he so blatantly lied??.
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Is that the spreadsheet that would’ve revealed all by any chance?BenDoolan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:05 pmHadn’t he recently been charged in the Northern Territory? So he’s got other matters to address now, he won’t be bothered with anything AFL related.
Didn’t know that,so thanks for that update.
Couple that with the current “isolation” rules, he won’t be coming out of hiding anytime soon.
He must be a rarity.Someone who enjoys Isolation.Conveniently!
Didn’t he declare he lost that spreadsheet, or that Dean Wallis had it on his compoota?