Our ruck crisis...

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by Crazyman » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:30 am

450k p.a. is a little over, but not unreasonable.
If the aints want to get him, would have to pay overs, but given the injury, he will likely miss at least the 1st 8 rounds or so next year as well...

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by mdso » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:27 am

Draper was on the verge of being picked to play in firsts, when he hurt his knee.

Ruckman good ones, must be as rare as hen's teeth. A cool one and a half mill you'd be mad not to take it. St Kilda have about as much chance as winning a premiership in the near future as we do. A nice position for the young bloke to be in, I think he is due to be signed up with a contract extension the Bombers too.
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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by grassy1 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:16 am

Speaking of the Aints,it looks like they also have speculation about whether or not their Coach is getting the Sack as well.

Poor Richo.Looks like The Oven is warming up to cook another Coach! :roll:

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by Windy_Hill » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:44 pm

Given St Kilda’s history of screwing up trades with Essendon ,I seriously doubt they would roll the dice again. How could a club in its position even contemplate risking that sort of coin on a completely untried prospect coming off a knee reconstruction. Sounds like fake news to me.

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by hop » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:06 am

BenDoolan wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:34 pm
Is Ryder a chance to return back to where it all started??

I certainly hope so!
Pass for mine.

Ryder showed glimpses for a season or two after a very slow burn.......
Speaking of burning....the way he left Essendon was hardly his finest moment and still leaves a bad taste.
Was always prone to flick the switch to cruise mode despite his undeniable talent - he is exactly the player we DON'T need!

I could just imagine him and Bellchambers giggling like little school girls about the entitlement bestowed upon them by EFC. Too many and too often my friends - we need a clear out of those characters!
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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by s'dreams » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:49 pm

hop wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:06 am
BenDoolan wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:34 pm
Is Ryder a chance to return back to where it all started??

I certainly hope so!
Pass for mine.

Ryder showed glimpses for a season or two after a very slow burn.......
Speaking of burning....the way he left Essendon was hardly his finest moment and still leaves a bad taste.
Was always prone to flick the switch to cruise mode despite his undeniable talent - he is exactly the player we DON'T need!

I could just imagine him and Bellchambers giggling like little school girls about the entitlement bestowed upon them by EFC. Too many and too often my friends - we need a clear out of those characters!
Paddy's body is cooked, his missus would have to go into protective custody and I would boo the shithead every time he f****** well touched the ball.

Our ruck crisis is of our own bloody making. We have to bite the bullet and fix it. If that involves moving on our list manager and "star" recruiter - so be it
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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by nudder12 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:56 pm

The crisis deepens - TBC has an achilles issue and likely to miss the rest of the season.

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by BenDoolan » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:02 pm

nudder12 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:56 pm
The crisis deepens - TBC has an achilles issue and likely to miss the rest of the season.
Crisis over.
Unfortunately, you can't drown a witch!

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by nudder12 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:18 pm

BenDoolan wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:02 pm
nudder12 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:56 pm
The crisis deepens - TBC has an achilles issue and likely to miss the rest of the season.
Crisis over.
hahahahaha :lol:

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by Windy_Hill » Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:02 pm

And with McKernan playing his best game of the season what are the odds of him also breaking down next week?

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by Crazyman » Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:19 pm

Windy_Hill wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:02 pm
And with McKernan playing his best game of the season what are the odds of him also breaking down next week?
Don’t worry, Woosha can use Tippa 😂

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by s'dreams » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:17 pm

Crazyman wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:19 pm
Windy_Hill wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:02 pm
And with McKernan playing his best game of the season what are the odds of him also breaking down next week?
Don’t worry, Woosha can use Tippa 😂
Why not? It seemed to me that he was the target of most of the (many) high kicks into our forward line.
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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by F111 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:16 pm

“Both Tom and Patrick had scans today, which confirmed the nature of their respective injuries,” Richardson said.

“... and we expect Patrick to return to the field in three to four weeks’ time, while Tom will be pushing to return before the conclusion of the home-and-away season.
Rested for finals footy ;) :lol:

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by s'dreams » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:50 pm

From the Herald-Sun via BomberBlitz
BRENDON GODDARD

IT’S time to launch operation “Free Jake Stringer” . Because if the Bombers can pull that off, they have what it takes to compete with the top sides for years to come.

I like the nucleus of this Essendon group. And despite some struggles this year, I think the best way for them to get maximum results is by adding another key forward who is going to command a little more respect from the opposition.

Shaun McKernan and Mitch Brown are great role players, but dropping someone such as Jon Patton into the forward line would change the entire dynamic.

That would allow Stringer to take the third-best defender, making him an absolutely brutal match-up for the opposition. With his agility and ability to pinch-hit in the midfield, he can be Essendon’s version of Dustin Martin. With attention focused elsewhere, that would make the club’s elite small forwards Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti and Orazio Fantasia even more dangerous. The other area that needs to be addressed is finding someone to play that inside midfield role. The Bombers have been searching for this since Jobe Watson’s retirement. Dylan Shiel is a solid clearance player but not a bull who can extract the footy from the tightest contests. The list has a great mix of youth and experience, but is lacking a little in the 22-24 age bracket. Ideally, the inside midfielder would fall in this age range. There is speculation my old teammate Sam Draper has a monster offer on the table to go to St Kilda. He is a ripper kid who works extremely hard, and the Bombers would be disappointed to lose him. But if a club is going to offer that sort of money, there isn’t much the Bombers can do. His departure would leave a big hole in their long-term ruck plans.

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Patton? Not sure about that. But I understand that we are into Sier as the big bodied extractor (who of course was best mates with someone in the team... forgot who my son told me). Sier will get dropped back when Beams comes back so is under no illusion.

The joyful thing about this is apparently, it enables us to bring back Paddy to "square the ledger"... GAGF!!! We didn't bend over backwards for Crameri so why do it for a cooked body like Ryder!

If we do lose Draper, With the move towards mobile rucks, it would be better to reinvent JD as a Marshall type ruck, if we ever get JD back.
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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by mdso » Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:41 am

I don't see how we can match the offer for Draper. When you think about it, its an offer almost too good to refuse. O.K. so its St. Kilda and he may not play finals but he can also move clubs again. I'm surprised Hawthorn aren't after him.

We definitely need to look at drafting a ruckman. And I don't mean Patrick Ryder.

I think we also need another zippy midfielder.
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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by Western Red » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:34 pm

s'dreams wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:50 pm


If we do lose Draper, With the move towards mobile rucks, it would be better to reinvent JD as a Marshall type ruck, if we ever get JD back.
I think JD could be a great ruck - natural footballer with good skills that would be hard to stop when he drifts forward. Playing ruck would have him more involved in the game. I think the idea of playing him as permanent ruck has serious merit (in my humble opinion :D )

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by Windy_Hill » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:14 pm

mdso wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:41 am
I don't see how we can match the offer for Draper. When you think about it, its an offer almost too good to refuse. O.K. so its St. Kilda and he may not play finals but he can also move clubs again. I'm surprised Hawthorn aren't after him.

We definitely need to look at drafting a ruckman. And I don't mean Patrick Ryder.

I think we also need another zippy midfielder.

Hang on...if St Kilda and perhaps Hawthorn are after his signature, why the hell wouldn't we do whatever it takes to keep him. Good enough for them, good enough for us. Unless of course we see Zac Clarke as being a 300 gamer for Essendon.

Give him whatever Belly is on and then put Belly out to pasture

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by s'dreams » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:49 pm

Bombers hope for Ryder return

By Jake Niall
August 19, 2019 — 8.18pm

Essendon has expressed strong interest in bringing Paddy Ryder back to the Dons, as the out-of-contract ruckman weighs up his future.

Ryder not yet made a decision on his future, but has attracted significant interest from his old club, despite Essendon having signed young ruckman Sam Draper to a four-year deal.

Ryder, who is 32 and has injury issues over the past couple of years, is understood to be seeking a two-year deal, with St Kilda also having shown some interest in Ryder, as the Saints look at options for a ruckman to support Rowan Marshall.

Port have offered Ryder only a one-year contract. The Power would prefer to keep the veteran ruck though Ryder has relinquished much of his rucking duties to former Eagle Scott Lycett, who joined the Power as a free agent at the end of last year and they have young follower Peter Ladhams, too.

A potential return to Essendon by Ryder would be a remarkable turn of events, given the All-Australian ruckman departed the club at the end of 2014 and was traded to Port Adelaide in the middle of the ASADA saga, signing a five-year deal with the Power.

While Ryder and his partner had cited welfare concerns about injection program back in 2014, there is no issue between the Dons and their former player.

Greater Western Sydney is another club in the market for a ruckman, but it seems unlikely that they could afford Ryder. The Giants have been considering Adelaide veteran Sam Jacobs, who is out of contract and has spent several weeks in the SANFL after the Crows preferred younger follower Reilly O'Brien.
Hmmmmmm...... my heart and my head say no

Apart form getting screwed over by Port a second time (he aint a free agent) - do we bring him back on good coin to keep Draper out of the side?

And it's about time that the club invested in another young ruck anyway.
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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by nudder12 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:57 pm

s'dreams wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:49 pm
Bombers hope for Ryder return

By Jake Niall
August 19, 2019 — 8.18pm

Essendon has expressed strong interest in bringing Paddy Ryder back to the Dons, as the out-of-contract ruckman weighs up his future.

Ryder not yet made a decision on his future, but has attracted significant interest from his old club, despite Essendon having signed young ruckman Sam Draper to a four-year deal.

Ryder, who is 32 and has injury issues over the past couple of years, is understood to be seeking a two-year deal, with St Kilda also having shown some interest in Ryder, as the Saints look at options for a ruckman to support Rowan Marshall.

Port have offered Ryder only a one-year contract. The Power would prefer to keep the veteran ruck though Ryder has relinquished much of his rucking duties to former Eagle Scott Lycett, who joined the Power as a free agent at the end of last year and they have young follower Peter Ladhams, too.

A potential return to Essendon by Ryder would be a remarkable turn of events, given the All-Australian ruckman departed the club at the end of 2014 and was traded to Port Adelaide in the middle of the ASADA saga, signing a five-year deal with the Power.

While Ryder and his partner had cited welfare concerns about injection program back in 2014, there is no issue between the Dons and their former player.

Greater Western Sydney is another club in the market for a ruckman, but it seems unlikely that they could afford Ryder. The Giants have been considering Adelaide veteran Sam Jacobs, who is out of contract and has spent several weeks in the SANFL after the Crows preferred younger follower Reilly O'Brien.
Hmmmmmm...... my heart and my head say no

Apart form getting screwed over by Port a second time (he aint a free agent) - do we bring him back on good coin to keep Draper out of the side?

And it's about time that the club invested in another young ruck anyway.
The only way I'd see Ryder back here is to take Zac Clarke's place as a backup. And only on a one year deal.

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Re: Our ruck crisis...

Post by grassy1 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:56 pm

How does Mrs Ryder feel about where she desires to live these days?

South Australia?Victoria?Queensland?WA maybe?

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