The Official 2007 Election Thread
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You are doing a great thing. I really hope to see a lot more independents/greens/democrats get seats. Guys like you are the ONLY hope this country has.boncer34 wrote:This is how independents like my good self survive.Sismis wrote:Just because a party does not get in, that doesn't mean you have wasted your vote. If a candidate receives a certain % of the vote they get their campaign funded.
This is how parties like the greens have survived.
Paul as much I would like to rely on the good judgement of the bookies in the pricing of the electoral market, for me departing with 10 large is too risky - "when it comes to" the electoral process in Australia. Put it this way if you can afford to lose $10,000 then by all means, but nothing is a guarantee in this world and odds on favourites do get beaten occasionally. It is still possible for the ALP to poll more than 50% on the vote and not win goverment.
To quote big Mal, having said that let me say this. In my opinion all is going well for the ALP. The small target strategy is working to this point. They have said to themselves we will refuse to get wedged by Howard. This has worked for Howard in the past to great effect. Rudd has come over very well. He doesnt get flustered and he seems to have a great deal of personal charisma.
My celebrations regarding Abbott day of shame were premature after Peter Garrett stupidly chose to be jocular with a shock jock.
Howard last gasp for power yesterday was a well targeted grab bag for the aspirational swinging voters.
To me it will go down to the undecided who will make up their mind by ascertaining whether the "Its Time" factor outweighs the "Risky ALP" factor.
With Labor's launch tomorrow I am hoping with have a knock out blow. Something the govt hasnt anticipated that will leave them flummoxed.
Beware any decisions on the Haneef case in the last week. Howard could use this as a wedge.
To quote big Mal, having said that let me say this. In my opinion all is going well for the ALP. The small target strategy is working to this point. They have said to themselves we will refuse to get wedged by Howard. This has worked for Howard in the past to great effect. Rudd has come over very well. He doesnt get flustered and he seems to have a great deal of personal charisma.
My celebrations regarding Abbott day of shame were premature after Peter Garrett stupidly chose to be jocular with a shock jock.
Howard last gasp for power yesterday was a well targeted grab bag for the aspirational swinging voters.
To me it will go down to the undecided who will make up their mind by ascertaining whether the "Its Time" factor outweighs the "Risky ALP" factor.
With Labor's launch tomorrow I am hoping with have a knock out blow. Something the govt hasnt anticipated that will leave them flummoxed.
Beware any decisions on the Haneef case in the last week. Howard could use this as a wedge.
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Very interesting point. Although if he did use it as a wedge he would change the message of his campaign in the last week. It is really amazing that currently we are stuck in Iraq, Afghanistan and in a global war on terror which shows no signs of ending - and there has been zero discussion of foreign affairs or national security. Extraordinary really, and perhaps its an indication of the selfishness of the electorate.MH_Bomber wrote:Beware any decisions on the Haneef case in the last week. Howard could use this as a wedge.
No discussion of foreign aid or debt relief either.
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Just re: Haneef, it's worth noting that another of ASIO's prosecutions fell over yesterday for various reasons, most of them to do with operative incompetence and deliberate flouting of the law. Any attempt by the Liberals to use ASIO's pursuit of Haneef as some sort of political device could be quite easily undermined by a Labor response pointing out that ASIO is clearly not the most competent organisation going round at the moment.
Agree, but chance of this happening = zero.jimmyc1985 wrote:Just re: Haneef, it's worth noting that another of ASIO's prosecutions fell over yesterday for various reasons, most of them to do with operative incompetence and deliberate flouting of the law. Any attempt by the Liberals to use ASIO's pursuit of Haneef as some sort of political device could be quite easily undermined by a Labor response pointing out that ASIO is clearly not the most competent organisation going round at the moment.
MH_Bomber, mate you are indeed a wiseman.
great advice.
But if the poles show 55-45 I'm going for it.
That a 10 % lead, take away 1.5 error, take away 3 for marginal seat pork, that it;s leaves 5.5 and that's over the point of the national swing.
If it gets close, with Libs calming they can win with 48%, I keeping in money.
But I've just got this feeling.
great advice.
But if the poles show 55-45 I'm going for it.
That a 10 % lead, take away 1.5 error, take away 3 for marginal seat pork, that it;s leaves 5.5 and that's over the point of the national swing.
If it gets close, with Libs calming they can win with 48%, I keeping in money.
But I've just got this feeling.
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Wish I was doing it this time Sismis. Sadly my financial backer pulled out and with the local rag never showing any interest in anything a Ind. has to say I had to pull out early on.Sismis wrote:You are doing a great thing. I really hope to see a lot more independents/greens/democrats get seats. Guys like you are the ONLY hope this country has.boncer34 wrote:This is how independents like my good self survive.Sismis wrote:Just because a party does not get in, that doesn't mean you have wasted your vote. If a candidate receives a certain % of the vote they get their campaign funded.
This is how parties like the greens have survived.
Essendon Football Club- We arent arrogant, just deluded.
Agree with most of it, but I am so sick of him butting in on every single issue.
Is there anything quite as a sad as a former Australian Prime Minister? Wouldn't have thought so.
The ALP has their policy launch today. And presumably they will respond to Howard's spending spree.... with a slightly different spending spree of their own. Maybe they will show some real leadership and decide to invest in infrastructure instead of just giving money back to everybody... but I wouldn't count on it...
Is there anything quite as a sad as a former Australian Prime Minister? Wouldn't have thought so.
The ALP has their policy launch today. And presumably they will respond to Howard's spending spree.... with a slightly different spending spree of their own. Maybe they will show some real leadership and decide to invest in infrastructure instead of just giving money back to everybody... but I wouldn't count on it...
I'm also sick of this government referring back to Keating and Hawke's term in office. So in light of their constant references to him, I think it is appropriate that he responds.Staggy wrote:Agree with most of it, but I am so sick of him butting in on every single issue.
Is there anything quite as a sad as a former Australian Prime Minister? Wouldn't have thought so.
Essendunny
Spot on Staggy. We do not need bribes, we need long term thinking and spending.Staggy wrote:Agree with most of it, but I am so sick of him butting in on every single issue.
Is there anything quite as a sad as a former Australian Prime Minister? Wouldn't have thought so.
The ALP has their policy launch today. And presumably they will respond to Howard's spending spree.... with a slightly different spending spree of their own. Maybe they will show some real leadership and decide to invest in infrastructure instead of just giving money back to everybody... but I wouldn't count on it...
Filthy thanks for clarifying my gender.
I watched the Labor Launch in its entirety and was quite impressed with the message.
It was delayed by an what seemed like over an hour with some technical glitch. I reckon it was to do with the positioning of the auto cue because Rudd appeared to be getting his lines from a cue to his diagonal right. I found this somewhat disconcerting from a body language point of view. He would have been better off reading from notes in front of him on the lectern. No doubt some Liberal sabotage at play.
His passion for education does appear to be genuine and will appeal to a wide cross section of the electorate.
10 days to go now. I am really hoping I will have something significant to celebrate come election day.
I watched the Labor Launch in its entirety and was quite impressed with the message.
It was delayed by an what seemed like over an hour with some technical glitch. I reckon it was to do with the positioning of the auto cue because Rudd appeared to be getting his lines from a cue to his diagonal right. I found this somewhat disconcerting from a body language point of view. He would have been better off reading from notes in front of him on the lectern. No doubt some Liberal sabotage at play.
His passion for education does appear to be genuine and will appeal to a wide cross section of the electorate.
10 days to go now. I am really hoping I will have something significant to celebrate come election day.
Menzie!!
Things go awry without Jye!!
Regards
MH_Bomber
Rudd much better that Howard.
Rudd - " I believe in education, I believe, I Believe.
Howard -" I want to be PM, I want to be PM, I want to be PM
Rudd - " I believe in education, I believe, I Believe.
Howard -" I want to be PM, I want to be PM, I want to be PM
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