No surprises really as our midfield is 0-6
No surprises really as our midfield is 0-6
I started a thread after the Adelaid win assessing our performance and noting that we should keep it in perspective.
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Well im not surprised at all that we are 3-3 and not looking to be the world beaters many had us for after rd 3. Put simply you cant lose centre clearences and F50 entries 6 weeks straight and expect more than 3 wins.
In fact as I indicated in my last thread and now feel vindicated we have overachieved to date due to a heroic performance from a well oiled backline and multipronged forward line while our midfield gets smashed week after week. in fact midfield is in far worse shape than any of us would like to believe and worse than even I predicted after the Adelaide game.
Every week the opposition forwards get a flood of precision delivery made possible by our midfielders (who in general cant hit the side of a barn by foot), playing a short kicking game, where the opposition floods back, opens up their forward 50 and rebounds the inevitable turnover and then rush forward in numbers. Thank our lucky stars we have Mal and Lloyd or we would cetainly be 0-6.
Im not even going to pretend I know who is responsible for the numerous contributing factors to our Midfield woes (although you would think it should be the coach), but the issues are clear to see.
1. Too many blokes who butcher the ball by foot being number one with JJ back to add another to that list. A team can and must operate with some players with deficiencies that have strenths that allow you to overlook the weaknesses but we have too many of the same type. We have a plethora of in and under hard running posession accumilators who dont have great skills and not enough with disposal skills who can get posessions. Stanton killed us on Saturday, but he is not alone, despite his clangers, his 26 touches is just one short of Monfries and Dyson combined.
2. The blokes who can kick it cant get it. Whats up with Monfries and Dyson? I have siad it before if they and Campo (Yes Campo!) dont come good we wont come good. We need these guys spotting up targets in the midfield and going forward and on the run! not stationary chip kicking we get now.
I just hope, Jetta and Houli and even Lonargan arnt simply running machines. We need some skills in this side, not just blokes who can get it and blokes who can carry it, this is AFL not rugby, kicking is an essential skill!
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Well im not surprised at all that we are 3-3 and not looking to be the world beaters many had us for after rd 3. Put simply you cant lose centre clearences and F50 entries 6 weeks straight and expect more than 3 wins.
In fact as I indicated in my last thread and now feel vindicated we have overachieved to date due to a heroic performance from a well oiled backline and multipronged forward line while our midfield gets smashed week after week. in fact midfield is in far worse shape than any of us would like to believe and worse than even I predicted after the Adelaide game.
Every week the opposition forwards get a flood of precision delivery made possible by our midfielders (who in general cant hit the side of a barn by foot), playing a short kicking game, where the opposition floods back, opens up their forward 50 and rebounds the inevitable turnover and then rush forward in numbers. Thank our lucky stars we have Mal and Lloyd or we would cetainly be 0-6.
Im not even going to pretend I know who is responsible for the numerous contributing factors to our Midfield woes (although you would think it should be the coach), but the issues are clear to see.
1. Too many blokes who butcher the ball by foot being number one with JJ back to add another to that list. A team can and must operate with some players with deficiencies that have strenths that allow you to overlook the weaknesses but we have too many of the same type. We have a plethora of in and under hard running posession accumilators who dont have great skills and not enough with disposal skills who can get posessions. Stanton killed us on Saturday, but he is not alone, despite his clangers, his 26 touches is just one short of Monfries and Dyson combined.
2. The blokes who can kick it cant get it. Whats up with Monfries and Dyson? I have siad it before if they and Campo (Yes Campo!) dont come good we wont come good. We need these guys spotting up targets in the midfield and going forward and on the run! not stationary chip kicking we get now.
I just hope, Jetta and Houli and even Lonargan arnt simply running machines. We need some skills in this side, not just blokes who can get it and blokes who can carry it, this is AFL not rugby, kicking is an essential skill!
yep the essendon midfield is a problem.
it won't be fixed overnight.
The club recognised the drafting wasn't great 2002-2004, and it shows.
Dyson, Winderlich, Stanton, Watson...big questions still remain about these guys.... Stanton is a decent player, but not a top liner...would prob get a run off the bench for most other AFL sides.
Winders has great pace, but still lacks polish.
Dyson and Watson....just dunno
The good news, is the dons recruited plenty of talent....hislop, jetta, houli, these guys will get a run really soon i think.
Unrealistic pressure on our backline, gave buddy all his chances on saturday. You can't continually get smashed in centre clearances and expect to win a footy match.
just doesn't happen.
it won't be fixed overnight.
The club recognised the drafting wasn't great 2002-2004, and it shows.
Dyson, Winderlich, Stanton, Watson...big questions still remain about these guys.... Stanton is a decent player, but not a top liner...would prob get a run off the bench for most other AFL sides.
Winders has great pace, but still lacks polish.
Dyson and Watson....just dunno
The good news, is the dons recruited plenty of talent....hislop, jetta, houli, these guys will get a run really soon i think.
Unrealistic pressure on our backline, gave buddy all his chances on saturday. You can't continually get smashed in centre clearances and expect to win a footy match.
just doesn't happen.
Spot ontom9779 wrote:yep the essendon midfield is a problem.
it won't be fixed overnight.
The club recognised the drafting wasn't great 2002-2004, and it shows.
Dyson, Winderlich, Stanton, Watson...big questions still remain about these guys.... Stanton is a decent player, but not a top liner...would prob get a run off the bench for most other AFL sides.
Winders has great pace, but still lacks polish.
Dyson and Watson....just dunno
The good news, is the dons recruited plenty of talent....hislop, jetta, houli, these guys will get a run really soon i think.
Unrealistic pressure on our backline, gave buddy all his chances on saturday. You can't continually get smashed in centre clearances and expect to win a footy match.
just doesn't happen.
alot of people can run abit, but they cant all find the football like stants does.. he has footy smarts and he makes very good decisions. Its just the one little thing he needs to improve.
who is our skills coach? There seems to be a fair bunch of guys that could use some kicking practice, far to many for an AFL team
who is our skills coach? There seems to be a fair bunch of guys that could use some kicking practice, far to many for an AFL team
Perfect pass to Welsh - goalStocksy wrote:That Scarcasm Ben?
In which quarter was he showing us great skill?
If Stanton is classed as a very good footballer then it just shows how far off this side is of ever acheiving anything...
Perfect 30 metre left foot kick - goal
Set shot 30 metres out - goal
Several pin point passes around the ground - I shall watch the game agin and give you the recipient of the passes if you like.
Care to name the one's that didn't hit?
The only thing Stanton has showed is that he is a time and space player.
Danstar seeing as you are bringing up the stats, how is his kicking or disposal when a player is with in a couple of metres? Saw it again Saturday, standing there and run down, just doesn't seem to have any awareness around him, and if he is not run down he has the hot potato syndrome, doesnt give a f*** how much pressure he puts the next bloke under, as long as he isnt about to get hit...
Danstar seeing as you are bringing up the stats, how is his kicking or disposal when a player is with in a couple of metres? Saw it again Saturday, standing there and run down, just doesn't seem to have any awareness around him, and if he is not run down he has the hot potato syndrome, doesnt give a f*** how much pressure he puts the next bloke under, as long as he isnt about to get hit...
Here's to swimming with bow legged women...
DYSON#2 wrote:AFL... derStocksy wrote:Top shelf player, just fell of my f****** chair... In which league?DYSON#2 wrote:stants lacks good disposal, fix this and we have a top shelf player
der, shit my 6 year old says that to his older brother...
Top shelf player = Judd, Kerr, Voss, Hird, Richuitto (how ever you spell it), Cousins etc etc etc...
Champions of the game, I will do laps around the MCG in a pink G_String if he reaches the status of any of them above...
Here's to swimming with bow legged women...